Re: recent changes to the CRA address FLOSS community concerns?

Am 09.12.23 um 04:07 schrieb Paul Wise: > > Does anyone have any more info about the changes? > Yes, I've seen the leaked document. I (and not only I) think NL-labs outlook is too optimistic. It's also necessary to understand that these kind of statements (the "update, december 2023") are also par

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

Am 08.12.23 um 21:13 schrieb Russ Allbery: Ilu writes: CRA + PLD proposals include regulations, that will be detrimental to FOSS How about: CRA and PLD proposals include regulations detrimental to FOSS This would be real-english-english? ;-) If it has the same meaning, fine by me

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

Am 08.12.23 um 20:55 schrieb Judit Foglszinger: The CRA and PLD proposals include regulations, that will be detrimental to free and open source software We've never had such a long option, and I'm worried this will break for some people trying to vote when it gets wrapped to the next line. But

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

The CRA and PLD proposals include regulations, that will be detrimental to free and open source software Am 08.12.23 um 20:40 schrieb Kurt Roeckx: The CRA and PLD will be detrimental to open source software

CRA is effectively a "law", was Re: This does not have to be a GR

Since this error comes up again and again on this list: The CRA is a "Regulation" (look at the long title: "REGULATION OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL on horizontal cybersecurity requirements for products with digital elements and amending Regulation (EU) 2019/1020"), in effect a la

Re: Call for vote: public statement about the EU Legislation "Cyber Resilience Act and Product Liability Directive"

and you all probably figured this out ... anyway, sorry about that. Am 12.11.23 um 16:10 schrieb Santiago Ruano Rincón: Dear Debian Fellows, Following the email sent by Ilu to debian-project (Message-ID: <4b93ed08-f148-4c7f-b172-f967f7de7...@gmx.net>), and as we have discussed duri

Re: Call for vote: public statement about the EU Legislation "Cyber Resilience Act and Product Liability Directive"

tement does not have to be perfect. It can very well be more radical or even too radical. That does not hurt, ramping up your demands and then offering a compromise is the way politics work. Ilu Am 13.11.23 um 17:57 schrieb Aigars Mahinovs: Thanks for the detailed explanation! It had quite a

Re: Call for vote: public statement about the EU Legislation "Cyber Resilience Act and Product Liability Directive"

ged in a substantial way. Law enforcement is pressuring for it. All the more reason to voice dissent. Ilu Am 13.11.23 um 14:46 schrieb Aigars Mahinovs: On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 12:31, Luca Boccassi wrote: I am *not* objecting to Debian taking such a vote and expressing the stance intended. Ho

Re: Call for vote: public statement about the EU Legislation "Cyber Resilience Act and Product Liability Directive"

by CRA, that's NIS2. If you are familiar with European legislation you will know that. Ilu Am 12.11.23 um 18:35 schrieb Ilulu: Am 12.11.23 um 18:09 schrieb Luca Boccassi: > We do know whether something is commercial or not though ... I sincerely doubt that. Just to illustrate this I