firmwares from non-free into a second set of
images?
Fine control of allowing certain non-free drivers (and/or documentation)
without enabling the whole 'evil empire' of 'non-free'. Simpler
installation from CD/usb/etc (network cards etc.).
See also my other post.
Cheers,
Johannes
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there might be more than enough space on the first
cd/dvd/usb-stick?
(Of course no non-free software is to be installed without explicit
action on of the user, just as with 'non-free'. )
Cheers,
Johannes
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the responsibility of
the RT).
Disclaimer: I am not a DD, so please take this as the very humble
opinion of a (serious) debian user.
Cheers,
Johannes
[1] Unfortunately, your hardware (xy) currently is not supported by
free software in Debian. You can now continue without installing
non-free software. This might
/her computer without much more non-free code
hidden in all the other places.
I really hope not to offend anyone with this opinion, it's just the less
than 2 cts worth of thought of a non-DD. ;-)
Cheers,
Johannes
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, potentially killing people around it.)
Consider these questions rhetorical, since they have already been
answered here and/or on debian-devel.
Johannes
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Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Tue, Nov 18 2008, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Ben Finney wrote:
The Debian system we provide is usable. There may be devices which are
not yet operable with Debian,
Which wireless card is supported by debian without
with 'firmware stuff' hardwired to the hardware.
One might even argue that the firmware is not part of the OS just as the
BIOS is not part of the OS (Please, take this with a grain of salt, I
don't intend to start new round of hair splitting).
Cheers,
Johannes
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and unambiguously: Please go ahead!
The addition of a 'sourceless' section just supports our priorities for
free software. Some non-free firmware, unfortunately, is required on
some hardware just to install all the free software in 'main'.
Cheers,
Johannes
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2008/11
it with the 'Binary Large OBject' [1] of databases.
Johannes
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLOB
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Ean Schuessler wrote:
Johannes Wiedersich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I would propose to create a new section of the archive, called
'sourceless' or such. Stuff within this archive doesn't have full
sources. It is legally distributable and follows
' and 'unofficial'
images,
reducing the amount of confusion...
;-)
Cheers,
Johannes
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in endless loops repeating what was said already,
since it's not them who want to change anything.
Just €0.02 ;-)
Johannes
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[Johannes Wiedersich]
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 07:42:47PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
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Robert Millan wrote:
If the project as a whole determines that the Release Team is empowered
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Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10 2008, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 19:27:59 +0100 Robert Millan wrote:
I think you're trying to imply that somehow SC #1
and SC #4 are not consistent. That is, that our priorities are our
On Friday 02 January 2004 22:47, Yven Johannes Leist wrote:
Furthermore, I think such a tone degrades the cooperative, convivial
atmosphere that our Project Secretary said we should cultivate back in
November[1].
I find it somewhat ironical that you bring up something like this, since I
On Friday 02 January 2004 22:47, Yven Johannes Leist wrote:
Furthermore, I think such a tone degrades the cooperative, convivial
atmosphere that our Project Secretary said we should cultivate back in
November[1].
I find it somewhat ironical that you bring up something like this, since I
not wanting to drop non-free are perhaps also in favor of putting
'warez' in main and for repealing clause 1 of the Social Contract make it
very hard for me to maintain the view that you are actually trying to foster
such a cooperative and convivial atmosphere yourself :(
Cheers,
Yven
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not wanting to drop non-free are perhaps also in favor of putting
'warez' in main and for repealing clause 1 of the Social Contract make it
very hard for me to maintain the view that you are actually trying to foster
such a cooperative and convivial atmosphere yourself :(
Cheers,
Yven
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