Re: New option for the RMS/FSF GR: reaffirm the values of the majority

2021-04-03 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Am So., 4. Apr. 2021 um 00:51 Uhr schrieb Simon McVittie : > > On Sat, 03 Apr 2021 at 21:46:08 +0200, someone claiming to be Enrico Zini > wrote: > > We explicitly refuse to acknowledge irrelevant political issues > > I was surprised to read this apparently coming from Enrico, particularly > since

Re: Willingness to share a position statement?

2021-03-23 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Am Mi., 24. März 2021 um 00:22 Uhr schrieb Adam Borowski : > > On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 04:56:39PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I hope not to be too inflamatory with this. As you are surely aware, > > last week Richard Stallman was reinstated as part of the Board of > > Directors of

Re: Proposal to overturn init systems premature GR

2019-12-04 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Am Mi., 4. Dez. 2019 um 12:11 Uhr schrieb Matthew Vernon : > > Russ Allbery writes: > > > Jonas Smedegaard writes: > >> Quoting Russ Allbery (2019-12-03 19:19:50) > > I took Russ' advice and slept on this; I had rather expected a response > from Sam by now. > > >>> Does anyone truly believe that

Re: Proposal: Focus on systemd

2019-11-29 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Am 29.11.19 um 21:16 schrieb Martin Michlmayr: > I'd like submit the following proposal: > > Proposal: Focus on systemd to promote standardization and cross-distribution > cooperation > > This resolution is a position statement under section 4.1 (5) of the > Debian constitution: > > Cross-distr

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-27 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Am Mi., 27. Nov. 2019 um 15:54 Uhr schrieb Simon McVittie : > > On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 11:27:13 +, Chris Lamb wrote: > > May I gently request we replace the use of the word "diversity" > > throughout the "init systems and systemd" General Resolution prior to > > it being subject to a plebiscite

Re: Proposal: General Resolution on Init Systems and systemd Facilities

2019-11-14 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Am Do., 14. Nov. 2019 um 21:24 Uhr schrieb Sam Hartman : > > I'd like to propose the following resolution. > > Seconds are not required, but it would be valuable to get confirmation > that the three choices contained in this proposal are worth having on > the ballot. > So, rather than seconding the

Re: Matthias's Choice 4

2019-11-13 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Am Mi., 13. Nov. 2019 um 15:53 Uhr schrieb Sam Hartman : > > >>>>> "Matthias" == Matthias Klumpp writes: > > I'd like to understand how what you propose below differs from my choice > 3. > This is more or less along the lines of what I meant to pro

Re: [draft] Draft text on Init Systems GR

2019-11-13 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Am Mi., 13. Nov. 2019 um 11:55 Uhr schrieb Holger Levsen : > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 09:51:03PM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > > Choice 4: systemd without Diversity at all > > as said before, I dislike the 'without diversity' framing and think it's > wrong, misleading and insulting. So I'd

Re: [draft] Draft text on Init Systems GR

2019-11-09 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Am Sa., 9. Nov. 2019 um 23:01 Uhr schrieb Mike Gabriel : > [...] > Isn't as side-question that is on the table with this GR: what about > the future of non-Linux variants of Debian. If systemd becomes _the_ > init system of focus in Debian (by vote, not only de facto), kFreeBSD > and Hurd will cert