On Sun, Jan 01, 2006 at 03:02:04PM +1000, Anthony Towns
wrote:
> Bcc'ed to -project, -legal and -private; followups to -vote please.
>
> It's been six months since the social contract changes that forbid
> non-free documentation went into effect [0], and we're still distributing
> GFDLed stuff i
On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 06:17:19PM +1100, Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 04:42:41PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > alternatively, print a single link to either the full documentation
> > > (containing t
On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 12:37:00PM +, Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Mike Hommey said:
> > On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 06:17:19PM +1100, Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 04:42:4
Hi everyone,
If you had to summarize your platform with 3 keywords, what would they be ?
Mike
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On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 01:38:41PM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 02:41:22PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > >Si, am I silly and alone in thinking that firmware is binary
> > > > computer programs? Let us ask google to define: firmware:
> > > You
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 08:08:18AM +0200, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> * Steve Langasek:
>
> >> I'd actually see some restriction with regard to interoperability
> >> (i.e. some reasonably documented interface between the firmware and
> >> the driver code), but getting this right i
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 08:48:20AM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The second GR was the cosmetic change one, which left us with a
> (new to some) interpretation including fonts, documentation and firmware as
> software needing source.
Note that this consmetic change applied to the
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 11:03:47AM +0100, Daniel Ruoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As I understand Debian's view on Free Software did not change, and as
> the firmware split is, indeed, an unsolved question, I think a more
> honest position would be to accept that we couldn't deal with t
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 01:16:28PM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 07:54:59PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > I'd add something to say that this is *really* the last time we postpone
> > the fixing of the issue and that no fur
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:47:42AM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 03:25:05PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > The idea is that the firmware is all the software and other softwarish
> > > information whi
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 07:17:47PM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 08:48:00PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
>
> > Debian needs to make a decision on how it will deal with this legal
> > minefield. That is higher priority than the entire discussion goin
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 09:00:27AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 07:17:47PM -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL
> > PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 08:48:00PM -0400, Nathanael Nerod
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 08:06:31AM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 07:50:49AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > List masters, this is evidence that Frans is not going to stop this, and
> > > as i
> > > asked yes
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 10:17:56AM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Notice how SC5 says : "we support their use and provide infrastructure for
> non-free packages". This clearly includes support for installing non-free
> firmware on our installer medias.
Notice how SC5 says : "we su
Seconded
On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 09:40:43PM +0200, Martin Wuertele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I disagree with the Policy delegation decision of our DPL [1] and
> therefore propose a resolution as defined in section 4.2.2 of the Debian
> constitution to delay the decision of the Debian Project L
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:00:15PM +0100, Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Dear Debian voters,
>
> I hereby propose the following General Resolution for sponsoring.
>
> ---
>
> The Debian project resolves that Debian developers allo
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 04:35:24PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> One could also ask the maintainer to upload (or send to the right
> email address) the buildd logs of their build if that's really a
> problem. Note that could be a good thing anyway, as it could help to
> spo
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 10:59:41PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The context doesn't make the above quote any more pleasant.
>
> Well, in an ideal world everybody trusts everybody, but unfortunately
> the world we live in is not i
Hi,
These questions may be skipped by AJ, because the answers are obvious.
What do you think of the dunc-tank initiative ? What do you think are
the result of the "experiment" ?
Mike
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On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 06:13:28PM +1000, Anthony Towns
wrote:
> But what I mean is more that maintaining two simple Debian patches (one
> for Linux, one for kFreeBSD) is probably simpler than maintaining one
> complicated Debian patch (with some conditional make cruft). And probably
> more impor
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 11:46:53AM +0100, Julien BLACHE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I hope you realize that your blog posts were one of the reasons why I
> > reduced the time I spend on the release dramatically. It is just
> > frustrating if people
On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 08:54:46AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
(...)
> last choice. After 9, use the letter A. Do not enter a number smaller
> than 1 or larger than 9, or the letter A.
"Do not enter (...) the letter A." ?!?
Mike
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On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 07:37:35PM +0100, Julien BLACHE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> FWIW you're not _forced_ either to read them, nor to participate.
> >
> > I've tried not participating or reading lists with large flame contents:
> > for signif
Sven,
Are you member or associated with GNAA ? Because you are acting and
trolling like you were.
Mike
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On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 12:29:56PM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:03:48AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> > Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thursday 10 May 2007 10:15, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > > > The expulsion procedure doesn't call for a vote,
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 02:50:59PM +0100, Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 2) The initial policy for an individual to be included in the keyring
>will be:
>
> * that the applicant acknowledges Debian's social contract,
> free software guidelines, and machine usage pol
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:52:02PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:47:22PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> > On Sunday 29 July 2007, Clint Adams wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 08:12:51PM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> > > > The top
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 04:38:10PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote:
> iwj: dpkgcvs, webwml
+ ubuntu-various until recently
> vorlon: cvs_doc, debian-release, wb-alpha, wb-arm, wb-hppa, wb-i386,
> wb-ia64, wb-m68k, wb-mips, wb-ppc, wb-s390, wb-sparc
+ ubuntu-release
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On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 04:30:42PM +0900, NIIBE Yutaka wrote:
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> > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > d81e16a2-03b6-4340-84f2-51de89b8185e
> > [ 2 ] Choice 1: Steve McIntyre
> > [ 1 ] Choice 2: Raphael H
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:17:18AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For those of you who're not aware: the Mozilla Foundation is now forcing
> people who want to use their firefox trademark to display an EULA to
> their users on first run of the software. It does not cu
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:56:28PM +0100, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> > For those of you who're not aware: the Mozilla Foundation is now forcing
> > people who want to use their firefox t
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 07:32:40PM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 05:37:33PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > f2276370-dfd7-45db-92d5-2da0c179c569
> > [ ] Choice 1: Delay Lenny until know
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 03:01:19PM +0100, Florian Weimer
wrote:
> * Theodore Tso:
>
> > I'm not ashamed at all; I joined before the 1.1 revision to the Debian
> > Social Contract, which I objected to them, and I still object to now.
> > If there was a GR which chainged the Debian Social contract
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 09:11:01AM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote:
> As others have pointed out, there is such a distribution, gNewSense; in
> fact, if you look at [2], you will find that there are five others,
> Ututu (the first fully free GNU/Linux distribution recognized by the
> FSF), Dynebolic, Mu
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 03:16:05PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Mike Hommey:
>
> > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 03:01:19PM +0100, Florian Weimer
> > wrote:
> >> * Theodore Tso:
> >>
> >> > I'm not ashamed at all; I joined before the 1.1 r
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 08:04:36PM +0100, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 08:36:24PM +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote:
> > On 2009-03-21 19:20 (+0100), Josselin Mouette wrote:
> >
> > > If you need to understand the rationale, please read the thread on
> > > debian-devel with "Sponso
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 12:10:26AM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote:
> Luk Claes wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > As probably many of you know, the most heard criticism from users and
> > press on Lenny's release is lost hardware support because of missing
> > firmware. Users and press are complaining that their
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:47:41PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> 2) The non-free files that we remove from the upstream sources.
Since you are a DD, I suppose you have read the social contract. What is
its first item ? Ah, yes ! "Debian will remain 100% free".
Are you suggesting a GR to change o
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 07:01:21PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> So, given that my main perplexities come from the fact that a DD is
> involved in organizing all this, you can imagine I wouldn't mind: a
> company doing that (which is already the case for Google with GSoC), a
> non-DD/DM doing
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:04:57AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Marc Haber (15/03/2010):
> > Maybe we failed to provide such a "two-liner", which in fact is,
> > unfortunately, much more complicated than one might think naively.
> > Additionally, example code for policy-rc.d is (almost?) nonexi
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 09:45:13PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 02:27:23PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > Anthony Towns wrote:
> >
> > > * www.debian.org/social_contract says Debian's "priorities are our
> > > users and free software",
> > > * popcon.debian.org curr
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 02:00:38PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Dienstag, 23. März 2010, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > > The second option aims at clarifying what is the source of the Debian
> > > operating system. It is controversial.
> > It is a lot but not controversial, actually its pre
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 04:52:19AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> I note Steve points out:
>
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 03:06:37PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/123481/index.html
>
> which cites estimates of 6-8 million Ubuntu users, for a factor of
> between
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 02:36:38PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> So, Stefano,
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:29:38AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > shouldn't need another candidate get in the way. After all, we've seen
> > excellent candidates burn out in their second year in the past, and so
On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 08:28:28PM +0800, Sean Whitton wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed 12 Jun 2024 at 03:45pm +01, Simon McVittie wrote:
>
> > As far as I know, git-archive (and therefore git-deborig) doesn't guarantee
> > that repeatedly archiving the same git tree produces the same tarball,
> > whic
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