Re: General Resolution: Liquidate donated assets as soon as possible

2022-06-19 Thread Milan Kupcevic
On 6/18/22 19:43, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote: Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the body who has the power to issue nontechnical statements. This is a proposal for Debian to create a guideline for our TOs when they receive donations of non-fiat assets. It is a

Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian

2021-03-31 Thread Milan Kupcevic
On 3/31/21 8:33 PM, Daniel Lenharo de Souza wrote: > So, > > Em 31/03/2021 19:52, Enrico Zini escreveu: >> Hello Debian Members, >>   * The more messages a person writes, the more the person cares, and the >>     more their opinion will be taken into account: people who only write >>     every onc

Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian

2021-03-31 Thread Milan Kupcevic
On 3/31/21 6:52 PM, Enrico Zini wrote: [...] > > * When the discussion eventually dies down, the Debian Secretary will >review all messages and pronounce the winner. > [...] \o/ Finally, it was about the time to get this right once and for all. Milan

Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian

2021-03-31 Thread Milan Kupcevic
On 3/31/21 6:52 PM, Enrico Zini wrote: [...] > > To avoid confusion, we'll maintain the same acronym as before. The new > system will be called Debian Grandiose Reflection. > At least there will be no confusion!?! Milan

Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 4, assert the need to learn and grow from recent events

2021-03-31 Thread Milan Kupcevic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 3/30/21 6:28 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: [...] > > CHOICE TEXT FOLLOWS: > > This is a position statement of the Debian Developers in accordance with > our constitution, section 4.1.5. > > The Developers firmly believe that leaders in any pr

Re: Amendement to GR Statement regarding Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-30 Thread Milan Kupcevic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 3/30/21 10:48 AM, Santiago R.R. wrote: > > For the matter of consistency, this is the full amended amendment: > > Choice X: Debian encourages working with groups that foster diversity > and equality > > === Begin text === > > Under section 4.

Re: opinion on Choice 1

2021-03-30 Thread Milan Kupcevic
On 3/30/21 6:18 AM, Ulrike Uhlig wrote: > > People without voting rights repeatedly tried to lobby or push for a > certain agenda on this list. I'm tired of that and I think we'll all be > happier when this GR is over. > Not all contributors have voting rights but they do have the right to be

Re: Amendement to GR Statement regarding Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-30 Thread Milan Kupcevic
On 3/30/21 10:10 AM, Zlatan Todoric wrote: > Hi Phil, > > On 3/30/21 14:15, Phil Morrell wrote: >>> Therefore, in the current situation, the Debian Project is unable to >>> collaborate both with the FSF and any other organisation in which >>> Richard >>> Stallman has a leading position. >> Hi Sant

Re: Amendement to GR Statement regarding Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-29 Thread Milan Kupcevic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Choice X: Debian is unable to collaborate with FSF === Begin text === Under section 4.1.5 of the constitution, the Developers make the following statement: Debian’s statement on Richard Stallman rejoining the FSF board We at Debian are profoun

Re: opinion on Choice 1

2021-03-29 Thread Milan Kupcevic
On 3/29/21 4:58 AM, Ulrike Uhlig wrote: [...] > > Sorry for my ignorance, but who are you? I cannot find your name in the > Debian contributor list. > > [...] Ivan, Your contributions to Debian [0][1][2][3] are very welcome. Do not get discouraged by ignorant people who might try to shame you

Re: Asking DPL to shorten Discussion Period for rms-open-letter

2021-03-28 Thread Milan Kupcevic
On 3/28/21 5:55 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: >> "Jonas" == Jonas Smedegaard writes: > > Jonas> Quoting Pierre-Elliott Bécue (2021-03-28 20:31:01) > >> Le dimanche 28 mars 2021 � 14:04:48+0200, Jonas Smedegaard a > >> �crit�: > My involvement in this subthread was when Molly arguing >

Re: "rms-open-letter" choice 3: do not, as the project itself, sign any letter regarding rms

2021-03-27 Thread Milan Kupcevic
On 3/27/21 9:01 AM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 01:56:08PM +0100, Timo Weingärtner wrote: >> Hallo Kurt Roeckx, >> >> 27.03.21 13:03 Kurt Roeckx: >>> I've added this option on the website. I'm still processing emails. >>> >>> Note that it's my interpretation that if changes are acc

Re: "rms-open-letter" choice 3: do not, as the project itself, sign any letter regarding rms

2021-03-27 Thread Milan Kupcevic
On 3/27/21 6:51 AM, Timo Weingärtner wrote: > > Updated text: > ---8<---8<---8<--- > The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard > Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not. > > Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (co-)sign any of the

Re: "rms-open-letter" choice 3: do not, as the project itself, sign any letter regarding rms

2021-03-27 Thread Milan Kupcevic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 3/27/21 6:51 AM, Timo Weingärtner wrote: > > Updated text: > ---8<---8<---8<--- > The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard > Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not. > > Any individual (includi

Re: "rms-open-letter" choice 3: do not, as the project itself, sign any letter regarding rms

2021-03-26 Thread Milan Kupcevic
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 3/26/21 9:36 AM, Timo Weingärtner wrote: > Hi, > > Updated text: > ---8<---8<---8<--- > The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard > Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not. > > Any individual (i