Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-10-21 Thread ss-composer
Andy, Thank you for the email. You can currently use Debian without systemd as long as no package you use depends on systemd. That depends on systemd hook is a primary objection for those of us who know better. Why should a non-init package depend on a particular init system? Only systemd

Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-10-20 Thread ss-composer
I wholeheartedly support this proposal. I would go further in this proposal and state that no software should require a specific init system in ANY pid. Of course, like many others, I would prefer Debian's default init to be almost anything other than systemd. In fleeing systemd, I have left