Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 10:20:52PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Do you really think we should change an old and overall good format? It's not a "format", it's an introductory text. There is no negative aspect in making it a bit more logical and user-friendly, why are you making change sound like a

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, OK, another draft, now incorporating the last two suggestions. I added a mention of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] location. Now, GR votes have different wording: the full text of the GR and amendments is included if it is short, or a pointer is put in for the vote page otherwise

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Manoj Srivastava dijo [Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 04:59:03PM -0500]: > > Well, I don't think that's really important to the typical user - > > people just want to know about the part they have to send back > > in. Whether you call this "the ballot" or "the part of the ballot you > > have edit in order to

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Sunday 13 April 2008 16:25:40 Manoj Srivastava wrote: > NOTE: The vote must be GPG signed (or PGP signed) with your key that is > in the Debian keyring. The voting software (Devotee) accepts mail that > either contains only an unmangled OpenPGP message (RFC 2440 compliant), > or a PGP/MIME mail

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 05:25:40PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > b) move the address to send the ballot to up front, where we mention >it. Good idea, and it can't hurt to repeat it. Maybe also warn against group-replies? I personally think that we should discourage such public voting, but

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:45:55 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Here it is - with some other changes while I was at it. (I also > couldn't find the references to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the CFVs. Should > there be some?) I guess. It seemed pointless before, since you already hav

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:12:20 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Well, I don't think that's really important to the typical user - > people just want to know about the part they have to send back > in. Whether you call this "the ballot" or "the part of the ballot you > have edit in ord

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, 2008-04-13 at 23:45 +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > -- > 2. That which causes joy or happiness. Suggesting to vote for "Choice 2: John Doe 2" ? :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 10:12:20PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > Can you present a sample ballot for, say, DPL election 2009? It > > might help to see a full ballot and compare the points of difference. > > Will do (in another mail). Here it is - with some other changes while I was at it.

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 02:51:59PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > I propose that you make the beginning look like this: > > > HOW TO VOTE > > > First, read the full text of [...variable data...] > > > The ballot is a small text form that is included below. It is cast > > by sending a fi

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:44:09 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Huh. Looking at the ballot: , | ... | Do not erase anything >> between the lines below and do not change the | choice names. > Yes, you see, that's the point - the text just starts talking about > not erasing somet

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 10:40:01PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > If you think the vote period is too short, then I suppose there > is the option to see if other > people consider it so too, and see if you can redo some of the > constitutional amendment that was passed by acclaim last y

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 10:46:46PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:44:12 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > But I see how it would help if the CFV was more verbose about that, > > and less verbose about other things. It goes on and on about the > > technica

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:44:12 +0200, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > But I see how it would help if the CFV was more verbose about that, > and less verbose about other things. It goes on and on about the > technicalities of the vote, and says to read the platforms twice > (because the read

Re: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
TECTED]> >> Date: Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 1:02 AM >> Subject: Ballot for leader2008 >> To: Anand Kumria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The mail was processed an hour after the vote ended. Surprise, mail is not a synchronous protocol. >> Hi, >> No b

Re: Fwd: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 02:15:55AM +0100, Anand Kumria wrote: > Especially when the instructions for requesting a ballot are > frustrating incomplete and this was processed after the the cut-off. > > Who knew that attempting to engage an automated system from 21:54 GMT > onwards in order to receiv

Fwd: Ballot for leader2008

2008-04-12 Thread Anand Kumria
well. Anand. -- Forwarded message -- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 1:02 AM Subject: Ballot for leader2008 To: Anand Kumria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, No ballot found for leader2008. Hope this helps, Debian Project secre