Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Donnerstag, 20. März 2014, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Sorry for the slight hijack but: | X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) ^^^ Seriously? why not? We welcome non technical contributors, don't we? cheers, Holger, who longs for changing his X-Mailer

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Francesca Ciceri
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:24:03PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Donnerstag, 20. März 2014, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Sorry for the slight hijack but: | X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) ^^^ Seriously? why not? We welcome non technical contributors,

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
| Subject: Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict | X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) ^^^ Seriously? While I understand the question, I'm not sure this is very relevant. Yes, Debian is about promoting the cause of free

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:44:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: While I understand the question, I'm not sure this is very relevant. If the DPL is expected to speak at confs or talk with the press, I'd very very much prefer the DPL were to use a Debian machine when representing Debian. I think

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:44:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: While I understand the question, I'm not sure this is very relevant. Yes, Debian is about promoting the cause of free software; and yes, actually *using* free software is a very good (first) way to promote its cause. I'll

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Filippo Rusconi
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 02:10:01PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:44:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: While I understand the question, I'm not sure this is very relevant. Yes, Debian is about promoting the cause of free software; and yes, actually *using* free

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Mason Rice
On 3/21/2014 8:42 AM, Filippo Rusconi wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 02:10:01PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:44:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: While I understand the question, I'm not sure this is very relevant. Yes, Debian is about promoting the cause of

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Neil McGovern
On 21 Mar 2014, at 14:42, Filippo Rusconi lopi...@debian.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 02:10:01PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:44:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: While I understand the question, I'm not sure this is very relevant. Yes, Debian is about

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-20 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Sorry for the slight hijack but: | Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 19:29:19 +0100 | From: Neil McGovern n...@halon.org.uk | To: debian-vote@lists.debian.org | Subject: Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict | X

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-14 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi Lars, On 13/03/14 at 09:05 +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: We have, from time to time, situations within the project where people's feelings are strong and raw at the same time. These might turn into outright flame wars, but even before they go that far, they can be damaging. For example,

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-14 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Fri, March 14, 2014 15:37, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: You use the init discussions as an example. I'd like to stress that many people (inside and outside Debian) have been extremely impressed by the init discussion on the -ctte@ list. The Technical Committee provided an in-depth technical review

Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-13 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 08:49:41PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: We have a number of delegated teams. How detailed should the delegations be? What is the appropriate level of oversight, management, and control that the DPL and the project in general should have for deciding what the teams work