Re: Call for seconds: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 02:00:27PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Robert Millan] > > + > > + When ever a package in Debian is found to have been violating the > > + Debian Free Software Guidelines for 60 days or more, and > > + none of the solutions that have been implemented (i

Re: Call for seconds: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-26 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Robert Millan] > + > + When ever a package in Debian is found to have been violating the > + Debian Free Software Guidelines for 60 days or more, and > + none of the solutions that have been implemented (if any) is > considered > + suitable by the maintainers, the pa

Re: Call for seconds: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-25 Thread Joey Schulze
Robert Millan wrote: > > I hereby propose the following General Resolution to stablish a procedure > for resolving DFSG violations: I believe that the Debian project is way better off without this General Resolution and with the rules and social contract as they are to date. Even worse, I have t

Re: Call for seconds: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, Oct 24 2008, Robert Millan wrote: >> ,[ Option 8 ] >> |1. We affirm that our Priorities are our users and the free software >> | community (Social Contract #4); >> | >> |2. Given that we have known for two previous releases that we have >> | non-free bits in kerne

Re: Call for seconds: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-24 Thread Robert Millan
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 09:41:53AM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote: > Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The action of moving it may be performed by any of the developers (however, > > moving packages in the "stable" distribution may still require approval by > > the Release Team for "stable")

Re: Call for seconds: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-24 Thread Robert Millan
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 05:39:31PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.10.24.1717 +0200]: > > I hereby propose the following General Resolution to stablish a procedure > > for resolving DFSG violations: > > I would generally second this, but I wish w

Re: Call for seconds: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-24 Thread Robert Millan
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 01:28:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > ,[ Option 7 ] > |1. We affirm that our Priorities are our users and the free software > | community (Social Contract #4); > | > |2. We acknowledge that there is a lot of progress in the kernel firmware > |

Re: Call for seconds: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-24 Thread Robert Millan
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:22:14PM -0700, Jeff Carr wrote: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 08:17, Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > When ever a package in Debian is found to have been violating the DFSG for > > By who? There is no standard. I don't think we need a standard to define thing

Re: Call for seconds: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-24 Thread Jeff Carr
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 08:17, Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When ever a package in Debian is found to have been violating the DFSG for By who? There is no standard. > The action of moving it may be performed by any of the developers (however, As you know, there are developers with

Re: Call for seconds: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, Oct 24 2008, Robert Millan wrote: > I hereby propose the following General Resolution to stablish a procedure > for resolving DFSG violations: I think that I would like to see an option to just release Lenny with an exception on the ballot, without any changes to the foundation

Re: Call for seconds: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-24 Thread Ben Pfaff
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The action of moving it may be performed by any of the developers (however, > moving packages in the "stable" distribution may still require approval by > the Release Team for "stable"). I don't understand this part. As a developer, how do I move a pac

Re: Call for seconds: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-24 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.10.24.1717 +0200]: > I hereby propose the following General Resolution to stablish a procedure > for resolving DFSG violations: I would generally second this, but I wish we would separate the two issues: first establish whether and how we want to

Call for seconds: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-24 Thread Robert Millan
I hereby propose the following General Resolution to stablish a procedure for resolving DFSG violations: Option 1 (set an upper limit) ~ The developers resolve that: When ever a package in Debian is found to have been violating the DFSG for 60 days or more, and none