Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-17 Thread MJ Ray
Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] No need - Mark Ray did so earlier in the week. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but I think http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2006/03/msg00269.html was disliked, because there was a sudden surge in posting frequency, which many people do when

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
[ Apologies for the delay; I've had a weekend away... ] On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 10:39:50AM +, MJ Ray wrote: Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:36:42AM +, MJ Ray wrote: 1. The process is intended as a last resort - what steps would you take before initiating

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-13 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 10:17:00AM +, MJ Ray wrote: Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:36:42AM +, MJ Ray wrote: 2. Do you believe it would be fair to cite someone's non-technical socio-religious views in the reasoning for or against expulsion? I

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-12 Thread MJ Ray
Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/01/msg00968.html For those who can't read -private, Andrew's claims are untrue - objections are voiced due to the manner in which Andrew voiced his beliefs, not the beliefs in and of themselves. The

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-12 Thread Matthew Garrett
Mac Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Garrett, to support your claim, will you make public any objection(s) you posted to that August 2005 thread, as an example, or state that you posted none? No need - Mark Ray did so earlier in the week. Well, I'm fairly sure that's not his belief, so

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-11 Thread MJ Ray
Benjamin Seidenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Say (said, saying, says): 2. To express in words: Say what's on your mind. 3. a. To state as one's opinion or judgment; declare: I say let's eat out. b. To state as a determination of fact: It's hard to say who is right in this matter..

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-11 Thread Matthew Garrett
Murdock Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to debate grand ideas: What role should socio-religious views play in the Debian project? Would using differences in beliefs about death as a motive to call for expulsion (as threatened in

Who would you expel from Debian? (Was: Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process)

2006-03-11 Thread Ted Walther
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 03:44:28AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: Murdock Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to debate grand ideas: What role should socio-religious views play in the Debian project? Would using differences in beliefs about death as a motive to call for expulsion (as

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-10 Thread MJ Ray
Steve McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:36:42AM +, MJ Ray wrote: 1. The process is intended as a last resort - what steps would you take before initiating or supporting it yourself? I would need to convince myself of two things: * that the project as a whole

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-10 Thread Matthew Garrett
Morio Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you believe that anyone in Debian has ever been discriminated against for socio-religious views that had no impact on their ability to work in the project? Given the number of people in Debian, it seems probable that

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-10 Thread MJ Ray
Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] You said: ITYM wrote. Any voices you heard reading debian-vote to you today were not mine. If you can't distinguish between me and the voices you hear reading debian-vote to you, please ask your doctor. 2. Do you believe it would be fair to cite someone's

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-10 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
MJ Ray wrote: Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] You said: ITYM wrote. Say (said, saying, says): 2. To express in words: Say what's on your mind. 3. a. To state as one's opinion or judgment; declare: I say let's eat out. b. To state as a determination of fact: It's hard to say

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-09 Thread MJ Ray
Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:36:42AM +, MJ Ray wrote: 2. Do you believe it would be fair to cite someone's non-technical socio-religious views in the reasoning for or against expulsion? I sure hope you are not seriously asking that. Sadly, events last

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:36:42AM +, MJ Ray wrote: The process to expel a developer is described in http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/08/msg5.html I am not sure whether all expulsion attempts get far enough to be recorded on -private or -project as described in the

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-09 Thread MJ Ray
Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you believe that anyone in Debian has ever been discriminated against for socio-religious views that had no impact on their ability to work in the project? Given the number of people in Debian, it seems probable that one will have experienced religious

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
pe, 2006-03-10 kello 02:52 +, MJ Ray kirjoitti: Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you believe that anyone in Debian has ever been discriminated against for socio-religious views that had no impact on their ability to work in the project? Given the number of people in Debian, it

Re: Candidate questions: expulsions process

2006-03-08 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:36:42AM +, MJ Ray wrote: The process to expel a developer is described in http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/08/msg5.html I am not sure whether all expulsion attempts get far enough to be recorded on -private or -project as described in the