Ean Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The accounting solution at SPI is still tenuous. Illness, accident or simple
boredom could still easily lead us to the situation we had before. The
solution you've outlined could work but it increases complexity rather than
removing it. I don't know
also sprach Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au [2005.03.04.2118 +0100]:
I think the communication issues are just a stand in for
complaints of the underlying cause. If they weren't, I think the
new.html page should be more of a solution
... not many people knew about it until recently. And
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 06:56:44PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Sven Luther wrote:
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:59:16PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have some real trouble with the fact that all the work i do for
debian
Sven Luther wrote:
It's hard to take this sort of discussion as anything but an attack on
ftpmaster, since there are plenty of teams in Debian that're even less
transparent and effective than us. But given how these sorts of
But they are less a hindrance to the daily work of maintainers, and
Sven Luther wrote:
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 06:56:44PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
4) furthermore, i believe that, altough it never happened, it could well be
that the BSwhatever agency may also once it reads the notification, reject
the export authorization for a particular package, no ?
No.
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 06:12:03AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
Sven Luther wrote:
It's hard to take this sort of discussion as anything but an attack on
ftpmaster, since there are plenty of teams in Debian that're even less
transparent and effective than us. But given how these sorts of
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 06:09:00AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
Well, here's a simple train of thought:
(1) Hrm, ftpmaster aren't doing things as quickly as normal.
(2) Gosh, that probably means they're really busy.
(3) I wonder what I could do that would help.
Ah, well, in how can we
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 03:02:34PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote:
I actually think that's a good result: far better to keep track of the
problematic packages, than to just REJECT them with a reason like
doesn't seem like a good idea and have them
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 11:28:57AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
There's no particular reason NEW isn't being processed -- people are
just busy doing other things; some of which are outside Debian, others
of which are related to getting the release out, or whatever else.
That's not, in my
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050305 09:00]:
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:59:16PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have some real trouble with the fact that all the work i do for debian
is
reported to the US secret services or whatever by
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 08:48:21AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:59:16PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have some real trouble with the fact that all the work i do for debian
is
reported to the US secret services or
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yep, but there is a difference between the information being
available, and it being actively feeded to the NSA or whoever. And
it is especially bothering if this cause undue delay in our normal
activities, like aj is saying it is.
Tough. It's *public*.
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 09:02:36AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050305 09:00]:
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:59:16PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have some real trouble with the fact that all the work i do for
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:55:25PM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
Sven Luther wrote:
I have some real trouble with the fact that all the work i do for debian is
reported to the US secret services or whatever by the ftp-masters and our
archive handling services, and i certainly did *NOT* agree to
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:18:37PM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
Matthew Garrett wrote:
3) My package has been sitting in the queue for ages and other packages
have been processed
This is a communication problem.
No, this is a policy problem. Communication is easy: hit M for manual
reject,
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So what ? You are one of us, and not a potentially hostile outside agency.
PUBLIC. That means not only to us, but to hostile things too.
Hostile things like the US Government, or *really* hostile things like
the governments of France and China.
--
To
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 11:33:43PM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
Sven Luther wrote:
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 09:27:36AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
Steve Langasek wrote:
As someone who is
both an ftpmaster and a DPL candidate, could you also tell us what
resources you (or the ftpmasters as a
Sven Luther wrote:
Well, i guess people get rather irritated if sending email to ftp-master email
address for things that are mostly reasonable could as well go to /dev/null,
Sure, of course they are, and so they should be. I can fairly readily
find 52k more reasons for people to be irritated
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 03:29:58AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
Sven Luther wrote:
Well, i guess people get rather irritated if sending email to ftp-master
email
address for things that are mostly reasonable could as well go to
/dev/null,
Sure, of course they are, and so they should be. I
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote:
As a concrete example, I don't think
http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
resolves the complaints about NEW and hence I don't think that the NEW
issue is an example of a communication problem at all.
http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:33:15PM +0100, David Schmitt wrote:
On Thursday 03 March 2005 04:41, Anthony Towns wrote:
Sven Luther wrote:
I would like to know from the DPL candidates what is their opinion on way
the ftp-masters handle the NEW queue,
I think this is the wrong question.
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 11:28:16AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
Sven Luther wrote:
And again to my purely technical question. Is it really necessary for
kernel-source-2.6.11 to go through NEW once it is uploaded for example ?
It's not a technical issue it's a legal one -- our approach to
Matthew Garrett wrote:
Erm, ftpmaster hat, I guess.
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote:
As a concrete example, I don't think
http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
resolves the complaints about NEW and hence I don't think that the NEW
issue is an example of a communication problem at
Sven Luther wrote:
I have some real trouble with the fact that all the work i do for debian is
reported to the US secret services or whatever by the ftp-masters and our
archive handling services, and i certainly did *NOT* agree to this being the
case.
Everyone subscribed to debian-devel-changes
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have some real trouble with the fact that all the work i do for debian is
reported to the US secret services or whatever by the ftp-masters and our
archive handling services, and i certainly did *NOT* agree to this being the
case.
What are you talking
Steve Langasek wrote:
As someone who is
both an ftpmaster and a DPL candidate, could you also tell us what
resources you (or the ftpmasters as a group, if you believe it's
appropriate to speak for them) would appreciate?
The most valuable thing I can think of would be to not have to have some
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 09:27:36AM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
Steve Langasek wrote:
As someone who is
both an ftpmaster and a DPL candidate, could you also tell us what
resources you (or the ftpmasters as a group, if you believe it's
appropriate to speak for them) would appreciate?
The
Whoops. I screwed up an edit. Let me redo it:
Q: In June of 2004 it became apparent that SPI had deep set
problems executing its chartered tasks. Donations equal to roughly
half of Debian's total holdings did not make their way into the project's
accounts due to poor (or non-existant)
Where can we put them? Submitting them in secret to be edited by the debate
organizers seems incorrect.
I think we just need to remain focused on the idea that we are editing
questions to be posed to candidates, not attempting to answer the questions
themselves.
On Wednesday 02 March 2005
Hi Anthony,
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 07:41:09PM -0800, Anthony Towns wrote:
I would like to know from the DPL candidates what is their opinion on way
the
ftp-masters handle the NEW queue,
I think this is the wrong question. The right question to ask is what
the ftpmasters think of the way
Hi All,
As you probably know, the 2005 Debian Project Leader elections will
involve an IRC debate, to be chaired by Martin Krafft and myself.
The exact format and time of the debate have not been finalised, though
the debate will obviously be held during the campaign period (ie before
March 21st)
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 09:29:41AM +, Helen Faulkner wrote:
You are welcome to either post suggested questions to this list, or to
email myself and/or Martin privately with your suggestions. If you wish
your questions to be anonymous, please email us privately and make that
clear.
Ok, i
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