Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-30 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On sam, 2007-06-30 at 16:30 +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > It would probably be helpful to clean the listing from those in NM. I guess I know a way to "clean" them :) Regards, -- Yves-Alexis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL P

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 12:16:47PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 08:25:56PM +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On 28/06/07 at 05:49 +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > Yes, please sent it, I'll publish it somewhere. > > > If you are not too ashamed of your scripts, I'd like t

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 04:30:46PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > On 28/06/07 at 05:49 +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > Thanks to Felipe, the lists of possible candidates are now public. See: > > > * list of non-DD Maintainers or Uploaders, sorted by the number of > > >

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-30 Thread Joey Schulze
Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > On 28/06/07 at 05:49 +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > Yes, please sent it, I'll publish it somewhere. > > > If you are not too ashamed of your scripts, I'd like to see them as > > > well, if you don't mind. > > > > Hi, > > > > Thanks to Felipe, the lists of possible c

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-30 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 08:25:56PM +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 28/06/07 at 05:49 +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > Yes, please sent it, I'll publish it somewhere. > > If you are not too ashamed of your scripts, I'd like to see them as > > well, if you don't mind. > > Hi, > > Thanks to Felipe

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-29 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 28/06/07 at 05:49 +, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Yes, please sent it, I'll publish it somewhere. > If you are not too ashamed of your scripts, I'd like to see them as > well, if you don't mind. Hi, Thanks to Felipe, the lists of possible candidates are now public. See: * list of non-DD Mainta

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 27/06/07 at 21:42 -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: > Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > On 26/06/07 at 16:57 -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: > >> Anthony Towns wrote: > >> > >> > On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 02:35:56PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: > >> >> Someone with access to the real keyrings would be > >> >>

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-27 Thread Felipe Sateler
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 26/06/07 at 16:57 -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: >> Anthony Towns wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 02:35:56PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: >> >> Someone with access to the real keyrings would be >> >> able to tell you the right number. >> > >> > TTBOMK, the real ke

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-27 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 12:03:36PM +0100, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 10:58:13PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > Notes: package should generally be co-maintained by sponsor and non-DD > > > maintainer, with the non-DD maintainer doing most of the work > > If you restrict

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 11:17:44AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > > On Tuesday 26 June 2007 21:29, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:18:57AM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: > > > > However, like Pierre, I'm not convinced that the numbers o

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-27 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 11:17:44AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Tuesday 26 June 2007 21:29, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:18:57AM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: > > > However, like Pierre, I'm not convinced that the numbers of actually > > > interested people is large. > > F

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-27 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 10:58:13PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > Notes: package should generally be co-maintained by sponsor and non-DD > > maintainer, with the non-DD maintainer doing most of the work > If you restrict this use case to that specific case, then you won't > have a lot of can

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-27 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Hi Anthony, On Tuesday 26 June 2007 21:29, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:18:57AM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: > > However, like Pierre, I'm not convinced that the numbers of actually > > interested people is large. > > FWIW, I'm happy to put the work into this even if not many pe

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-27 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 26/06/07 at 16:57 -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: > Anthony Towns wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 02:35:56PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: > >> Someone with access to the real keyrings would be > >> able to tell you the right number. > > > > TTBOMK, the real keyring can be obtained by ssh by

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En cette nuit nuageuse du mercredi 27 juin 2007, vers 01:06, Paul Cager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait: > I'm a fairly active (non-DD) member of the Java Packaging team, and I > also maintain a couple of non-Java packages. Although I'm starting to > become reasonably skilled at Java packaging,

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Paul Cager
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:18:57AM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: > However, like Pierre, I'm not convinced that the numbers of actually > interested people is large. I suspect one reason that this thread hasn't resulted in many people expressing an interest is that non-DDs tend not to read debian-vot

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Felipe Sateler
Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 02:35:56PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: >> Someone with access to the real keyrings would be >> able to tell you the right number. > > TTBOMK, the real keyring can be obtained by ssh by DDs, at > > merkel:/srv/keyring.debian.org/keyrings/debian-keyr

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:18:57AM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: > However, like Pierre, I'm not convinced that the numbers of actually > interested people is large. FWIW, I'm happy to put the work into this even if not many people end up using it. Cheers, aj signature.asc Description: Digital si

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 02:35:56PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote: > Someone with access to the real keyrings would be > able to tell you the right number. TTBOMK, the real keyring can be obtained by ssh by DDs, at merkel:/srv/keyring.debian.org/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg and via anonymous

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Felipe Sateler
cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > Do we have any numbers on how many non-DD maintainers we have? I'm part of > that group, but how large a group is this? A very long one-liner[1] gets me 992 in the main unstable archive. Of course the number is different since the debian-keyring in the unstable

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070626 13:51]: > There are about 2100 unique email address in the Maintainer: and > Uploaders: field in the unstable Sources files. That counts mailing > lists and potentially multiple alternate addresses for DDs as well as > non-DD maintainers of course.

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 02:50:59PM +0100, Anthony Towns wrote: >> So here's a proposal for the Debian Maintainers idea that's been floating >> around for some time now [...] >> I've used terms like "initial policy" quite a bit -- [...] > > Shortly before

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 10:13:31AM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > Do we have any numbers on how many non-DD maintainers we have? I'm part of > that group, but how large a group is this? There are about 2100 unique email address in the Maintainer: and Uploaders: field in the unstable S

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread MJ Ray
Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > == N-M Delays > > This one suck, because NM delays are mostly fixeable, and DM will just > make them not painful at all for DD, depriving the system to be fixed. > This is exactly the use case I fear. > > That's why I'd like

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Monday 25 June 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: > == Sponsored Maintainers = > > For packages that're maintained by non-DDs on an ongoing basis via > sponsored uploads, DM status provides the sponsor with the opportunity > to change the upload priveleges from "default-deny" to "default-allow" > on

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-26 Thread Frank Küster
Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > == Upstream Maintainers == [...] > Authorised by: Existing maintainer > Notes: package should be co-maintained by maintainer and upstream, upstream > generally to be expected to be uploading code changes rather than > packaging changes I'm not su

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-25 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 07:45:20PM +0100, Anthony Towns wrote: > == N-M queue = > Authorised by: AM This one makes sense. I'd also add the sponsor in the people giving the ACK. > == Sponsored Maintainers = > Authorised by: Sponsor > Notes: package should generally be co-ma

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-25 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Mon, Jun 25, 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: > Shortly before leaving DebConf someone (whose name I've forgotten, > sadly) suggested that some sample use cases for the DM process might be > useful. Here's some that come to my mind: Another use case that I'd like to mention is the Ubuntu maintain

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal - Use Cases

2007-06-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 02:50:59PM +0100, Anthony Towns wrote: > So here's a proposal for the Debian Maintainers idea that's been floating > around for some time now [...] > I've used terms like "initial policy" quite a bit -- [...] Shortly before leaving DebConf someone (whose name I've forgotten