Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-03-06 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 04:09:04PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > Presumably the decryption key could be unlocked after the election > > and placed alongside the balots; since it should expire and be > > revoked after the completion of the vote, this sho

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-03-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 04:09:04PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > I guess the decryption key for encrypted ballots would be of some > > issue, but that's about it. > Presumably the decryption key could be unlocked after the election and > placed alongside the balots; since it should expire and be

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-03-05 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 07:26:34AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > >> Which only goes to show that you really do not understand > > >> how Debian works. Are you not aware that vote have already been > > >> audited before? That anyone with root on maste

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-03-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 07:26:34AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> Which only goes to show that you really do not understand > >> how Debian works. Are you not aware that vote have already been > >> audited before? That anyone with root on master already has access > >> to all ballots? That the

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-03-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 8 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane verbalised: > On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 08:47:10AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On 8 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane said: >>> On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 06:57:03PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 7 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: > > Should the

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-02-08 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 08:47:10AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 8 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane said: >> On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 06:57:03PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>> On 7 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: Should the situation arise with the current constitution, the >>

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-02-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 8 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane said: > On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 06:57:03PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On 7 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: > >>> Should the situation arise with the current constitution, the >>> secretary can use 7.1.4 to avoid impropriety or we can still >>> fo

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-02-08 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 06:57:03PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 7 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: >> Should the situation arise with the current constitution, the >> secretary can use 7.1.4 to avoid impropriety or we can still >> formally have the election run by the secretary, b

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-02-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 7 Feb 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: > On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 04:50:40AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > >> This _implication_ that the Secretary wouldn't properly run a vote >> concerning his own appointment is tiresome. If that's what you >> meant, please say it directly. > > It is

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-02-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 04:50:40AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > This _implication_ that the Secretary wouldn't properly run a vote > concerning his own appointment is tiresome. If that's what you meant, > please say it directly. If not, what _did_ you mean? Personally, I'd think we're much mo

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-02-07 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 04:50:40AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > [Kalle Kivimaa] >>> Actually, it is a direct procedure. The developers may, by way of >>> a GR, override any decision of the DPL, including an appointment. > [Lionel Elie Mamane] >> A vote run by the secretary obviously. Oh, h

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-02-07 Thread Frank Küster
Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Kalle Kivimaa] >> > Actually, it is a direct procedure. The developers may, by way of a >> > GR, override any decision of the DPL, including an appointment. > > [Lionel Elie Mamane] >> A vote run by the secretary obviously. Oh, how delicious. > > If

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-02-07 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Kalle Kivimaa] > > Actually, it is a direct procedure. The developers may, by way of a > > GR, override any decision of the DPL, including an appointment. [Lionel Elie Mamane] > A vote run by the secretary obviously. Oh, how delicious. If you've got something to say, say it. This _implicatio

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-02-07 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 12:19:22PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> procedure, remove you from your post is a hallmark of democracy. >> In the case of the Project secretary, the procedure is indirect (by >> electing a project leader who will not reappoint y

Re: Democracy in Debian

2006-02-03 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > procedure, remove you from your post is a hallmark of democracy. In the > case of the Project secretary, the procedure is indirect (by electing a > project leader who will not reappoint you), but that's not a problem, Actually, it is a direct procedure.

Democracy in Debian (was: Anton's amendment)

2006-02-03 Thread Frank Küster
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Perhaps you'll never change your position because this is your >> reading of the DFSG. But for the sake of democracy you have to >> assume that people think different, so it is not fair to impose your >> view. > > Thankfully, Debian is not a