Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 07:12:15PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > I'd like to agree with the people who say that the proposed editorial > corrections destroy the style of the social contract. The proposed > new social contract has similar effect to the current one. I'm not > able to determine if the

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 09:07:27PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > Well, IMHO the old version is much nicer. The social contract _should_ > in my opinion have some nice, not too technical start. A promise is a > very good start, and I'd like to keep that there. Forward references should be avoided w

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 09:09:33PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > New text: > > > > 5. Works that do not meet our free software standards > [...] > > We encourage CD > > manufacturers to read the licenses of the packages in these areas and

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 07:12:15PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > I'd like to agree with the people who say that the proposed editorial > corrections destroy the style of the social contract. The proposed > new social contract has similar effect to the current one. I'm not > able to determine if the

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 09:07:27PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > Well, IMHO the old version is much nicer. The social contract _should_ > in my opinion have some nice, not too technical start. A promise is a > very good start, and I'd like to keep that there. Forward references should be avoided w

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-04-01 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 09:09:33PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > New text: > > > > 5. Works that do not meet our free software standards > [...] > > We encourage CD > > manufacturers to read the licenses of the packages in these areas and

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-30 Thread Sam Hartman
I'd like to agree with the people who say that the proposed editorial corrections destroy the style of the social contract. The proposed new social contract has similar effect to the current one. I'm not able to determine if the effect is identical, but even if so, I find it a less powerful and m

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-30 Thread Sam Hartman
I'd like to agree with the people who say that the proposed editorial corrections destroy the style of the social contract. The proposed new social contract has similar effect to the current one. I'm not able to determine if the effect is identical, but even if so, I find it a less powerful and m

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-30 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 11:22:06AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Then, WTF, what do you gain by enumbering more interpretations that are > grammatically possible, and then at once declaring that they are > semantically and legally meaningless? I don't see any point in this. We > still have exactly t

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-30 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 11:22:06AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Then, WTF, what do you gain by enumbering more interpretations that are > grammatically possible, and then at once declaring that they are > semantically and legally meaningless? I don't see any point in this. We > still have exactly t

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-30 Thread Frank Küster
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 04:31:49AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >> But it's essentially a different topic from the message Raul was replying >> to, which was explaining that there are only two possible ways to >> interprent the "...will remain 100% F

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 04:31:49AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >> Raul Miller wrote: > >> > * There are people in Debian. > >> Fine, there are a bunch of silly interpretations as well. The context

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-30 Thread Frank Küster
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 04:31:49AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >> But it's essentially a different topic from the message Raul was replying >> to, which was explaining that there are only two possible ways to >> interprent the "...will remain 100% F

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 04:31:49AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >> Raul Miller wrote: > >> > * There are people in Debian. > >> Fine, there are a bunch of silly interpretations as well. The context

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > * There are people in Debian. > Fine, there are a bunch of silly interpretations as well. The context > indicates that "Debian" means "the Debian system" or "the Debian > distribution". You could interpret it as meaning "the

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > * There are people in Debian. > Fine, there are a bunch of silly interpretations as well. The context > indicates that "Debian" means "the Debian system" or "the Debian > distribution". You could interpret it as meaning "the

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Michael Banck wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> Raul Miller wrote: >> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:27:34PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >> >> No, trust me, we parsed this one very carefully and took an excessive >> >> amount of time on this in debia

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Raul Miller wrote: > > * There are people in Debian. > Fine, there are a bunch of silly interpretations as well. The context > indicates that "Debian" means "the Debian system" or "the Debian > distribution". You could interpre

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> Raul Miller wrote: >> > * There are people in Debian. >> Fine, there are a bunch of silly interpretations as well. The context >> indicates that "Debian" means "the Debian system" or "the Debian >> dist

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 04:27:58AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > I think my comment was actually appropriate and to-the-point. I beg to differ, but *shrug* Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Raul Miller wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:27:34PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >> No, trust me, we parsed this one very carefully and took an excessive > >> amount of time on this in debian-legal. There are two possib

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 04:27:58AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > I think my comment was actually appropriate and to-the-point. I beg to differ, but *shrug* Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> Raul Miller wrote: >> > * There are people in Debian. >> Fine, there are a bunch of silly interpretations as well. The context >> indicates that "Debian" means "the Debian system" or "the Debian >> dist

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Michael Banck wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> Raul Miller wrote: >> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:27:34PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >> >> No, trust me, we parsed this one very carefully and took an excessive >> >> amount of time on this in debia

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Raul Miller wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:27:34PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >> No, trust me, we parsed this one very carefully and took an excessive > >> amount of time on this in debian-legal. There are two possib

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 01:21:33AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Raul Miller wrote: > > * There are people in Debian. > Fine, there are a bunch of silly interpretations as well. The context > indicates that "Debian" means "the Debian system" or "the Debian > distribution". You could interpre

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-29 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Raul Miller wrote: >> >> >> 1. Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software > >> >> This states that everything in Debian is software, and futhermore that >> >> everything in Debian is free. > >> > :%s/and furthermore/and\/or/ > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:27:34PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> No

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-28 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Raul Miller wrote: >> >> >> 1. Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software > >> >> This states that everything in Debian is software, and futhermore that >> >> everything in Debian is free. > >> > :%s/and furthermore/and\/or/ > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:27:34PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> No

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-28 Thread Raul Miller
> >> >> 1. Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software > >> This states that everything in Debian is software, and futhermore that > >> everything in Debian is free. > > :%s/and furthermore/and\/or/ On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:27:34PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > No, trust me, we parsed this one ve

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-28 Thread Raul Miller
> >> >> 1. Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software > >> This states that everything in Debian is software, and futhermore that > >> everything in Debian is free. > > :%s/and furthermore/and\/or/ On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:27:34PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > No, trust me, we parsed this one ve

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-27 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Andreas Barth wrote: > * Nathanael Nerode ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040325 00:55]: >> > Well, IMHO the old version is much nicer. The social contract _should_ >> > in my opinion have some nice, not too technical start. A promise is a >> > very good start, and I'd like to keep that there. >> You have a

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-27 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Andreas Barth wrote: > * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040325 00:25]: >> On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:07:27 +0100, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> said: >> >> > Ji, I'm not entirly happy with this proposal. One change is a large >> > change: Is all in Debian Software or not? This of course

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-27 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Raul Miller wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 06:44:57PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> The current statement is: >> >> >> 1. Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software >> This states that everything in Debian is software, and futhermore that >> everything in Debian is free. > > :%s/and furthermore

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-27 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Andreas Barth wrote: > * Nathanael Nerode ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040325 00:55]: >> > Well, IMHO the old version is much nicer. The social contract _should_ >> > in my opinion have some nice, not too technical start. A promise is a >> > very good start, and I'd like to keep that there. >> You have a

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-27 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Andreas Barth wrote: > * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040325 00:25]: >> On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:07:27 +0100, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> said: >> >> > Ji, I'm not entirly happy with this proposal. One change is a large >> > change: Is all in Debian Software or not? This of course

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-27 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Raul Miller wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 06:44:57PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >> The current statement is: >> >> >> 1. Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software >> This states that everything in Debian is software, and futhermore that >> everything in Debian is free. > > :%s/and furthermore

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Nathanael Nerode ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040325 00:55]: > > Well, IMHO the old version is much nicer. The social contract _should_ > > in my opinion have some nice, not too technical start. A promise is a > > very good start, and I'd like to keep that there. > You have a point. Andrew's version is

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-25 Thread Andreas Barth
* Nathanael Nerode ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040325 00:55]: > > Well, IMHO the old version is much nicer. The social contract _should_ > > in my opinion have some nice, not too technical start. A promise is a > > very good start, and I'd like to keep that there. > You have a point. Andrew's version is

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-25 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > New text: > > > > 5. Works that do not meet our free software standards > [...] > > We encourage CD > > manufacturers to read the licenses of the packages in these areas and > > determine if they ca

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-25 Thread Andreas Barth
* Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040325 00:25]: > On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:07:27 +0100, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Ji, I'm not entirly happy with this proposal. One change is a large > > change: Is all in Debian Software or not? This of course has impact > > on the whole d

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-25 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > New text: > > > > 5. Works that do not meet our free software standards > [...] > > We encourage CD > > manufacturers to read the licenses of the packages in these areas and > > determine if they ca

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-25 Thread Andreas Barth
* Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040325 00:25]: > On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:07:27 +0100, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Ji, I'm not entirly happy with this proposal. One change is a large > > change: Is all in Debian Software or not? This of course has impact > > on the whole d

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > New text: > > 5. Works that do not meet our free software standards [...] > We encourage CD > manufacturers to read the licenses of the packages in these areas and > determine if they can distribute the packages on their CDs. ^^ Th

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > New text: > > 5. Works that do not meet our free software standards [...] > We encourage CD > manufacturers to read the licenses of the packages in these areas and > determine if they can distribute the packages on their CDs. ^^ Th

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-24 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 06:44:57PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > The current statement is: > > >> 1. Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software > This states that everything in Debian is software, and futhermore that > everything in Debian is free. :%s/and furthermore/and\/or/ -- Raul

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-24 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Andreas Barth wrote: > Ji, > > I'm not entirly happy with this proposal. One change is a large > change: Is all in Debian Software or not? This of course has impact on > the whole document, but is a seperate issue from the wording. This is, in Andrew's proposal, basically an issue of wording. (A

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:07:27 +0100, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Ji, I'm not entirly happy with this proposal. One change is a large > change: Is all in Debian Software or not? This of course has impact > on the whole document, but is a seperate issue from the wording. I thi

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-24 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 06:44:57PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > The current statement is: > > >> 1. Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software > This states that everything in Debian is software, and futhermore that > everything in Debian is free. :%s/and furthermore/and\/or/ -- Raul -- To UN

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-24 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Andreas Barth wrote: > Ji, > > I'm not entirly happy with this proposal. One change is a large > change: Is all in Debian Software or not? This of course has impact on > the whole document, but is a seperate issue from the wording. This is, in Andrew's proposal, basically an issue of wording. (A

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:07:27 +0100, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Ji, I'm not entirly happy with this proposal. One change is a large > change: Is all in Debian Software or not? This of course has impact > on the whole document, but is a seperate issue from the wording. I thi

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-24 Thread Andreas Barth
Ji, I'm not entirly happy with this proposal. One change is a large change: Is all in Debian Software or not? This of course has impact on the whole document, but is a seperate issue from the wording. * Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040323 19:10]: > [ Andrews proposal ] > Old text

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-24 Thread Andreas Barth
Ji, I'm not entirly happy with this proposal. One change is a large change: Is all in Debian Software or not? This of course has impact on the whole document, but is a seperate issue from the wording. * Debian Project Secretary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040323 19:10]: > [ Andrews proposal ] > Old text

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-23 Thread Debian Project Secretary
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Now that the disposition of the non-free sections has been decided upon, it is time to move on to the editorial changes proposed by Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. I mean to have the formal discussion period start this Sun

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-03-23 Thread Debian Project Secretary
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Now that the disposition of the non-free sections has been decided upon, it is time to move on to the editorial changes proposed by Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. I mean to have the formal discussion period start this Sun

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-02-24 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 08:42:06AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:37:10PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > And this brings up a good point. Andrew, why can you and Raul not be > bothered to collect the

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-02-24 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 08:42:06AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:37:10PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > And this brings up a good point. Andrew, why can you and Raul not be > bothered to collect the

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-02-24 Thread Raul Miller
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:37:10PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 08:42:06AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > And this brings up a good point. Andrew, why can you and Raul not be > bothered to collect the c

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-02-24 Thread John Goerzen
I second this as well. On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:37:10PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > -8<- > > > > Paragraphs 1 to 4 of the social contract are replaced wi

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-02-24 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:37:10PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: And this brings up a good point. Andrew, why can you and Raul not be bothered to collect the current versions of your proposals, and post here a solicitation for se

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-02-24 Thread John Goerzen
I second this as well: On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:37:10PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > -8<- > > > > Paragraphs 1 to 4 of the social contract are replaced wi

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-02-24 Thread Raul Miller
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:37:10PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 08:42:06AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > And this brings up a good point. Andrew, why can you and Raul not be > bothered to collect the c

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-02-24 Thread John Goerzen
I second this as well. On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:37:10PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > -8<- > > > > Paragraphs 1 to 4 of the social contract are replaced wi

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-02-24 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:37:10PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: And this brings up a good point. Andrew, why can you and Raul not be bothered to collect the current versions of your proposals, and post here a solicitation for se

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-02-24 Thread John Goerzen
I second this as well: On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 08:37:10PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > -8<- > > > > Paragraphs 1 to 4 of the social contract are replaced wi

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-02-21 Thread Jochen Voss
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 03:12:32PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > Paragraphs 1 to 4 of the social contract are replaced with the > following text: > > 1. Debian will remain 100% free > > We provide the guidelines that we use to determine if a work is "free" > in the document entitled "The Debian

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-02-21 Thread Jochen Voss
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 03:12:32PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > Paragraphs 1 to 4 of the social contract are replaced with the > following text: > > 1. Debian will remain 100% free > > We provide the guidelines that we use to determine if a work is "free" > in the document entitled "The Debian

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-02-19 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > -8<- > > Paragraphs 1 to 4 of the social contract are replaced with the > following text: > > 1. Debian will remain 100% free > > We provide the guidelines that

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-02-19 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > -8<- > > Paragraphs 1 to 4 of the social contract are replaced with the > following text: > > 1. Debian will remain 100% free > > We provide the guidelines that

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-22 Thread Chad Walstrom
Seconded as amended. On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 03:12:32PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:35:01PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > Haven't had any further comments, so I guess we're good to go. This > >

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 03:12:32PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > As amended: > -8<- > > Paragraphs 1 to 4 of the social contract are replaced with the > following text: > > 1. Debian will remain 100% free > > We provide the g

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-22 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:35:01PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > Haven't had any further comments, so I guess we're good to go. This > > proposal corrects various linguistic errors, and updates the language > > of the social cont

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-22 Thread Chad Walstrom
Seconded as amended. On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 03:12:32PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:35:01PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > Haven't had any further comments, so I guess we're good to go. This > >

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 03:12:32PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > As amended: > -8<- > > Paragraphs 1 to 4 of the social contract are replaced with the > following text: > > 1. Debian will remain 100% free > > We provide the g

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-22 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:35:01PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > Haven't had any further comments, so I guess we're good to go. This > > proposal corrects various linguistic errors, and updates the language > > of the social cont

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-21 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 20:24, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > On Jan 20, 2004, at 16:35, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > > Nitpick: on-line, not online > > > dictionary.com says both are acceptable. > Since when has dictionary.com been an acceptable source of words? :-) Oxford English Dictionary seems

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-21 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 20:24, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > On Jan 20, 2004, at 16:35, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > > Nitpick: on-line, not online > > > dictionary.com says both are acceptable. > Since when has dictionary.com been an acceptable source of words? :-) Oxford English Dictionary seems

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-21 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jan 20, 2004, at 16:35, Steve Langasek wrote: Nitpick: on-line, not online dictionary.com says both are acceptable.

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-21 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jan 20, 2004, at 16:35, Steve Langasek wrote: Nitpick: on-line, not online dictionary.com says both are acceptable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-20 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:35:01PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > Nitpick: on-line, not online Hmm... according to Google, "online" is more than 20 times more common than "on-line". Even ispell is happy with both (at least with the iamerican spelling dictionary). I don't think there's any good r

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-20 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:35:01PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > Nitpick: on-line, not online Hmm... according to Google, "online" is more than 20 times more common than "on-line". Even ispell is happy with both (at least with the iamerican spelling dictionary). I don't think there's any good r

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > Haven't had any further comments, so I guess we're good to go. This > proposal corrects various linguistic errors, and updates the language > of the social contract so that it better reflects reality and the > original intent. > --

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > Haven't had any further comments, so I guess we're good to go. This > proposal corrects various linguistic errors, and updates the language > of the social contract so that it better reflects reality and the > original intent. > --

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-20 Thread Remi Vanicat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Haven't had any further comments, so I guess we're good to go. This > proposal corrects various linguistic errors, and updates the language > of the social contract so that it better reflects reality and t

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-20 Thread Remi Vanicat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Haven't had any further comments, so I guess we're good to go. This > proposal corrects various linguistic errors, and updates the language > of the social contract so that it better reflects reality and t

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-20 Thread Chad Walstrom
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > Haven't had any further comments, so I guess we're good to go. This > proposal corrects various linguistic errors, and updates the language > of the social contract so that it better reflects reality and the > original intent. > >

Re: GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-20 Thread Chad Walstrom
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 03:49:39PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > Haven't had any further comments, so I guess we're good to go. This > proposal corrects various linguistic errors, and updates the language > of the social contract so that it better reflects reality and the > original intent. > >

GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-20 Thread Andrew Suffield
Haven't had any further comments, so I guess we're good to go. This proposal corrects various linguistic errors, and updates the language of the social contract so that it better reflects reality and the original intent. -8<- Par

GR: Editorial amendments to the social contract

2004-01-20 Thread Andrew Suffield
Haven't had any further comments, so I guess we're good to go. This proposal corrects various linguistic errors, and updates the language of the social contract so that it better reflects reality and the original intent. -8<- Par