On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:34:05AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Anthony Towns a...@master.debian.org writes:
Personally, I would put this down to Debian simply not having any
contentious decisions to make. I haven't been following Debian as
closely as I once did, though, so perhaps I just
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 04:19:46PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes:
But in our practices, we tend to rely on the Technical Committee
only for issues that fall in the broad category of conflicts
(§6.1.2 Decide [...] where Developers' jurisdictions
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes:
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 04:19:46PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
I'm sure that's a large part of it, but I think people also avoid doing
this because it means not making decision by consensus. When some
central body hands down a decision, it almost
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes:
On the paper of the Constitution, the Technical Committee is already all
we need to cover up for cases where decision by consensus does not
work (I'm specifically thinking at §6.1.1 Deciding on any matter of
technical policy and §6.1.3 Make a
On 03/12/2012 04:04 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:28:53AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Hi,
If you see projects like Openstack or oVirt (sorry for the examples
taken from my area of expertise...), they have elections every 6 months
for project leaders in this or that
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:11:28PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 03/12/2012 04:04 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:28:53AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Hi,
If you see projects like Openstack or oVirt (sorry for the examples
taken from my area of expertise...),
On 03/15/2012 10:10 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:11:28PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 03/12/2012 04:04 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:28:53AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Hi,
If you see projects like Openstack or oVirt (sorry for the
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 01:27:07AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 03/15/2012 10:10 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:11:28PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 03/12/2012 04:04 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
Debian is not a democracy, nor does it need to be.
We have one
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:28:02PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
According to the constitution we can ask the Technical Committee to make
such decisions. But we don't have the habit of doing so and I don't
think the committee would scale if we would start doing so.
I believe the Technical
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:51:08AM +, Anthony Towns wrote:
I wonder if anyone can name three big controversies over the past few
years that have gotten resolved within Debian?
To the examples provided by Russ, I'd like to add time-based freezes,
which we are doing for Wheezy. I think it
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes:
According to the constitution we can ask the Technical Committee to make
such decisions. But we don't have the habit of doing so and I don't
think the committee would scale if we would start doing so.
I believe the Technical Committee can do better,
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 04:19:44PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
To make this concrete, we had a spat of GRs to decide various technical
and social issues in Debian some years back, and that practice has died
out almost completely. I know I at least much prefer the current
situation to when lots
Hi!
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes:
If you see projects like Openstack or oVirt (sorry for the examples
taken from my area of expertise...), they have elections every 6 months
for project leaders in this or that area of the project.
In Debian, we just elect a DPL, and then we hope
Anthony Towns a...@master.debian.org writes:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 04:19:44PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
To make this concrete, we had a spat of GRs to decide various technical
and social issues in Debian some years back, and that practice has died
out almost completely. I know I at least
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:28:53AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Hi,
If you see projects like Openstack or oVirt (sorry for the examples
taken from my area of expertise...), they have elections every 6 months
for project leaders in this or that area of the project.
In Debian, we just elect
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:28:53AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
If you see projects like Openstack or oVirt (sorry for the examples
taken from my area of expertise...), they have elections every 6 months
for project leaders in this or that area of the project.
In Debian, we just elect a DPL,
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes:
Voting on technical matters, or to elect technical bodies, works well
for projects that have a more narrow scope than Debian. There are Free
Software *development* projects that use vote among developers as a way
to decide whether to give commit
Hi,
If you see projects like Openstack or oVirt (sorry for the examples
taken from my area of expertise...), they have elections every 6 months
for project leaders in this or that area of the project.
In Debian, we just elect a DPL, and then we hope that he appoints people
who then can make
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