On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> Kurt, my inclination was to consider this change as falling under
> Constitution §A.1.3 as a change that "does not alter the meaning" of
> the proposal.
Since you don't actually need seconders under §4.2.1, and you are the
proposer of the original o
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:33:24AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end, the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including, but not limited to: package maintenance, translations,
> infrastructure a
Hi!
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:33:24AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end, the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including, but not limited to: package maintenance, translations,
> infrastructu
Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 11:33:24, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 09:36:50AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> > > Even better, now with attachments!
> >
> > There is yet another pronoun I have missed. Please find a patch
> > attached.
>
> Applied (wording / punctuation f
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Hi!
Am 19.09.2010 17:06, schrieb Lars Wirzenius:
> On su, 2010-09-19 at 11:33 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 09:36:50AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
Even better, now with attachments!
>>> There is yet another pronoun I
On su, 2010-09-19 at 11:33 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 09:36:50AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> > > Even better, now with attachments!
> > There is yet another pronoun I have missed. Please find a patch
> > attached.
>
> Applied (wording / punctuation fix), thanks!
>
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 11:40:07AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>
> I'm hereby introducing two changes:
>
> a) dropping the name "Debian Contributor"
>(attachment 0001-remove-the-term-Debian-Contributor.patch)
>
> b) fixing punctuation as suggested by Kumar Appaiah [1], thanks!
>(att
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 09:36:50AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> > Even better, now with attachments!
> There is yet another pronoun I have missed. Please find a patch
> attached.
Applied (wording / punctuation fix), thanks!
New current text is attached.
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Dear Zack,
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 11:56:32AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 11:40:07AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > I'm hereby introducing two changes:
>
> Even better, now with attachments!
There is yet another pronoun I have missed. Please find a patch
atta
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 11:40:07AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > My question was basicly if you wanted to make that change
> > at that time. My interpretation is that you didn't propose
> > to change it at that time, but that you would do it at some
> > later time.
> >
> > The question was
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 11:40:07AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> I'm hereby introducing two changes:
Even better, now with attachments!
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Quando
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 06:42:18PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > Kurt, my inclination was to consider this change as falling under
> > Constitution §A.1.3 as a change that "does not alter the meaning" of the
> > proposal.
>
> That would be A.1.6?
Yes, totally, sorry for the typo.
> My question w
Hi,
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 06:52:02PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > In case these changes are regarded as more than editorial (which is your
> > call, but I feel they are), the new proposal requires new seconds
> I'm not sure why you think the proposal requires seconds if it
> replaces an older
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:45:52AM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:48:02PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
>
> > > I like that a lot more than the other wording, thus seconded.
>
> > Please don't go and make this more confusing for me. As far as I
> > can tell this wa
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 04:08:50PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:40:09PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > > I'll let the patch linger for a couple of days -- actually, I'll be away
> > > for most part of tomorrow -- and then I'll apply it, posting a new
> > > complete d
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:51:51PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Stefano's DPL platform is actually quite clear on the subject:
> After seeing the results of this choice, it will always be possible to
> change the procedure, especially if a later DPL is elected with a
> platform that goes more to
Le Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 02:03:01PM +0100, Matthew Johnson a écrit :
>
> OTOH, if we pass a GR that looks like "we'll give them upload rights" (because
> it just says "they are DDs") and then they aren't given upload rights some
> people might feel upset that they voted for it. Just because it's no
On Thu Sep 16 14:58, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > I don't think we should open a second way to get upload rights to the
> > archive,
> > so I would *not* want to remove that part.
>
> So do you think that if “albeit without upload access to the Debian archive”
> is
> not present, the GR will preven
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:48:02PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > I like that a lot more than the other wording, thus seconded.
> Please don't go and make this more confusing for me. As far as I
> can tell this wasn't meant to be amendment yet. He will probably
> accept this or something si
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:40:09PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > I'll let the patch linger for a couple of days -- actually, I'll be away
> > for most part of tomorrow -- and then I'll apply it, posting a new
> > complete draft here shortly thereafter.
> So I'm not considering this currently as an
Le Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:02:34PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz a écrit :
> On 09/15/2010 02:16 PM, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > Le Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:00:32PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> >>
> >> The Debian project therefore invites the Debian Account Managers to:
> >>
> >> * Endorse the idea th
On 09/15/2010 02:16 PM, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:00:32PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
>>
>> The Debian project therefore invites the Debian Account Managers to:
>>
>> * Endorse the idea that contributors of non-packaging work might become
>> Debian Developers, alb
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 02:13:12PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:00:32PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>
> > The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> > To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> > inc
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:00:32PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:26:59AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > If we go for DDs without upload rights, I think that we should be
> > extremely careful about not transforming this new kind of DDs into
> > second-class members
Le Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:01:47PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:16:00PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > It seems to me that, if “albeit without upload access to the Debian
> > archive” were removed, it would not close the possibility for the
> > people in charge
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:16:00PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> It seems to me that, if “albeit without upload access to the Debian
> archive” were removed, it would not close the possibility for the
> people in charge to difference of status.
> Would such a change be a happy end for everybody ?
On 15/09/10 at 21:00 +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> Attached you can find a tentative wording of a proposal which remove the
> term "Debian Contributors", pretty similar to the version I had before
> posting (shame on me for changing that!), but maybe a bit better in that
> it doesn't the horri
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 02:13:12PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
> I like that a lot more than the other wording, thus seconded.
Thanks for your appreciation, but wait! :-) There are no need of seconds
for this change (unless some of the previous seconders considers it
unfaithful with respect to the
Le Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:00:32PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
>
> The Debian project therefore invites the Debian Account Managers to:
>
> * Endorse the idea that contributors of non-packaging work might become
> Debian Developers, albeit without upload access to the Debian archive.
>
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:00:32PM +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> The Debian project aims at producing the best free operating system.
> To that end the project benefits from various types of contributions,
> including but not limited to: package maintenance, translations,
> infrastructur
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:26:59AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> If we go for DDs without upload rights, I think that we should be
> extremely careful about not transforming this new kind of DDs into
> second-class members of the project. A way to do that is to avoid
> giving them a name, and emph
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 09:26:59AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
>If we go for DDs without upload rights, I think that we should be
>extremely careful about not transforming this new kind of DDs into second-class
>members of the project. A way to do that is to avoid giving them a name,
>and emphas
On 09:26 Wed 15 Sep , Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> If we go for DDs without upload rights, I think that we should be
> extremely careful about not transforming this new kind of DDs into
> second-class
> members of the project. A way to do that is to avoid giving them a name,
> and emphasize the fac
On ke, 2010-09-15 at 09:26 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> If we go for DDs without upload rights, I think that we should be
> extremely careful about not transforming this new kind of DDs into
> second-class
> members of the project. A way to do that is to avoid giving them a name,
> and emphasize
On 15/09/10 at 12:08 +0900, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> Naming (raised by at least Luca and Lars [8,9])
> ==
>
> Ah, what a mess!
>
> Until a few minutes before posting the GR proposal, the text contained a
> s/Debian Members/non-uploading Debian Developers/ and befor
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