Hi Joerg
On 2019/03/27 09:26, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 15354 March 1977, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
>> Really? Taking off weekends unless there's something urgent is
>> "problematic"? For a volunteer, unpaid position?
>
> No. Taking time off is fine. I do that too, sometimes, or I wouldn't be
> a
On 15354 March 1977, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
Really? Taking off weekends unless there's something urgent is
"problematic"? For a volunteer, unpaid position?
No. Taking time off is fine. I do that too, sometimes, or I wouldn't be
a DD anymore after all this time.
Announcing a set time where
* Martin Michlmayr [2019-03-26 19:30]:
> I see several problems that the current situation has:
>
> * Conflict of interest
> * Fairness and privilege
I had a third point that I forgot to include.
* Burnout: despite being a volunteer position, we have these
completely mad expectations of the DPL
Hi,
On 3/26/19 9:30 AM, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
>
> Finally, I see one risk: we keep repeating that something is
> controversial even though we're not sure it's *still* controversial.
> By repeating this myth, we're keeping it alive. The world has
> changed. Debian has to finds ways to adapt.
* Jonathan Carter [2019-03-26 17:35]:
> Well, Debian LTS *is* part of Debian, at least according to the Debian
> LTS team, unless there's something else you're alluding to?
Debian LTS is part of Debian.
Debian LTS wouldn't be viable without the funded development organized
through Freexian.
Fre
Hi Martin
On 2019/03/26 14:30, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Fairness and privilege: you and Joerg can run for DPL because of
> your employer support; Jonathan and I can run because we're willing to
> sacrifice a hit to our income. But how many potential DPL candidates
> are we ruling out because t
* Sam Hartman [2019-03-20 14:10]:
> Let me start by saying that I think it would be valuable to find ways
> to get more people paid to work on Debian; I was excited to see that in
> your platform.
>
> I'm nervous because of our past experience in this area.
I wasn't sure how to reply to your me
> "Stefano" == Stefano Zacchiroli writes:
Stefano> But I was following up specifically to Sam's point that
Stefano> "there would be two classes of developers and that
Stefano> volunteers would be frustrated/disappointed they were not
Stefano> getting paid" --- with respect to
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 02:10:13PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > It seems like having the Debian Project and DPL working to get more
> > paid developers might run into some of the same issues. In particular
> > there might be a perception that there
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 08:25:14AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 15347 March 1977, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>
> > As a random factoid related to this: in the Debian contributors survey
> > that we ran a while ago, ~18% of the respondents who declared to be
> > Debian contributors also declared
On 15347 March 1977, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
As a random factoid related to this: in the Debian contributors survey
that we ran a while ago, ~18% of the respondents who declared to be
Debian contributors also declared to be paid (at least in part) for
their contributions [1].
I think there i
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 02:10:13PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> It seems like having the Debian Project and DPL working to get more
> paid developers might run into some of the same issues. In particular
> there might be a perception that there would be two classes of
> developers and that voluntee
Let me start by saying that I think it would be valuable to find ways
to get more people paid to work on Debian; I was excited to see that in
your platform.
I'm nervous because of our past experience in this area.
I'm really hoping you have answers though because I agree with you that
lack of
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