* Enrico Zini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-05 14:20]:
> On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 02:27:36AM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> > > Actually, in a recent chatting one of the past DPLs told me that he
> > > tried at some point, but the feedback he got was roughly "who cares?".
> > Since we talked recent
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 02:58:04PM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 01:16 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Uh, for one thing, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" != "DPL Team".
>
> Maybe it would have been a good idea then to publicize a point of
> contact for your team. You did not, therefo
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 11:16:48AM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> There was no contact address for the DPL-team, or atleast none
> that I know off, so it's rather hard to ask them. The only
> available address that I know of is [EMAIL PROTECTED] And as
> far as I know, there wasn't even an official
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 09:49:29AM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> Hello Enrico,
>
> > But there's more than that. In the last year as part of the DPL Team,
> > people have been criticising the last year for the lack of reports. But
> > I don't remember a single one sending in a mail like "Dear
* Thijs Kinkhorst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060306 14:58]:
> On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 01:16 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Uh, for one thing, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" != "DPL Team".
>
> Maybe it would have been a good idea then to publicize a point of
> contact for your team. You did not, therefore I think
On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 01:16 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Uh, for one thing, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" != "DPL Team".
Maybe it would have been a good idea then to publicize a point of
contact for your team. You did not, therefore I think Enrico is wrongly
annoyed by the lack of input to the team.
I d
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 07:59:34PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 11:05:04AM -0500, Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin.
>
> > I'm not sure that I understand the reasons why the efforts couldn't be
> > reported, at least to debian-private. Are they one or more of the
> > fo
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The missing announcement is totally my fault, so please don't blame
> any DPL for this.
I don't think this is the point. If the DPL had cared about the problem
and about transparency, he'd asked you how the service is running and
why it hasn't been a
Frank Küster wrote:
> > * Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-05 18:48]:
> >> I also asked the DPL a question about backups of the development
> >> machines (after the CVS corruption last year) and never got any answer.
> >
> > FWIW, there is a dedicated backup server now. I don't know any
>
* Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-05 21:05]:
> > FWIW, there is a dedicated backup server now. I don't know any
> > details though (nor why it was never announced).
> So you also don't know what is backed up, and how often?
No, I only know that there's a dedicated backup server and that
Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-05 18:48]:
>> I also asked the DPL a question about backups of the development
>> machines (after the CVS corruption last year) and never got any answer.
>
> FWIW, there is a dedicated backup server now. I d
Enrico Zini wrote:
> I just went back to the mail archive of that time and stopped reading
> after a while because of anger rising: lots of good efforts have been
> done, and the instant reaction to those was in various case absolutely
> disappointing. It's all stuff you can't put in a report: you
* Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-05 18:48]:
> I also asked the DPL a question about backups of the development
> machines (after the CVS corruption last year) and never got any answer.
FWIW, there is a dedicated backup server now. I don't know any
details though (nor why it was never a
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 11:05:04AM -0500, Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
Hi Kevin.
> I'm not sure that I understand the reasons why the efforts couldn't be
> reported, at least to debian-private. Are they one or more of the
> following, and if so, which?
Among your categories, the ones that most apply
Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However, what you say in your message (if people had
> asked for status reports they would've received them) is blatantly
> wrong. We did ask, and (usually) no good response was given.
I also asked the DPL a question about backups of the development
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Hi Enrico,
I have some questions about what you've written regarding the DPL
reports. Perhaps I am just being dense, but some of it seemed purposely
obscure. This probably isn't really germane to debian-vote anymore, so
please follow up (if you like
su, 2006-03-05 kello 15:49 +0200, Lars Wirzenius kirjoitti:
> su, 2006-03-05 kello 14:20 +0100, Enrico Zini kirjoitti:
> > On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 10:44:17AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> >
> > > And yes, a couple of times I did ask, although on IRC and not via
> > > e-mail. Having to drag out in
su, 2006-03-05 kello 14:20 +0100, Enrico Zini kirjoitti:
> On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 10:44:17AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
>
> > And yes, a couple of times I did ask, although on IRC and not via
> > e-mail. Having to drag out information gets tiresome so I only did it a
> > couple of times.
>
> D
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 02:27:36AM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> However, what you say in your message (if people had
> asked for status reports they would've received them) is blatantly
> wrong. We did ask, and (usually) no good response was given.
this turns out to be interesting: we h
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 03:11:58AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote:
>
> But there's more than that. In the last year as part of the DPL Team,
> people have been criticising the last year for the lack of reports. But
> I don't remember a single one sending in a mail like "Dear DPL[-Team],
> what happene
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 09:49:29AM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> Hello Enrico,
> > But there's more than that. In the last year as part of the DPL Team,
> > people have been criticising the last year for the lack of reports. But
> > I don't remember a single one sending in a mail like "Dear DP
Hello Enrico,
> But there's more than that. In the last year as part of the DPL Team,
> people have been criticising the last year for the lack of reports. But
> I don't remember a single one sending in a mail like "Dear DPL[-Team],
> what happened last week?".
>
> It would have been a pleasure
su, 2006-03-05 kello 03:11 +0100, Enrico Zini kirjoitti:
> It would have been pointless to come out with such trivial reports.
I disagree. They let the project know that things are going on (or not
going on), and the DPL and Team are not just dormant, which was the
impression I, at least, had for
* Enrico Zini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-05 03:11]:
> In the last year as part of the DPL Team, people have been
> criticising the last year for the lack of reports. But I don't
> remember a single one sending in a mail like "Dear DPL[-Team], what
> happened last week?".
Such questions were ask
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