Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-07 Thread Martin Schulze
MJ Ray wrote: I may do that later, so for future: Does [EMAIL PROTECTED] have an archive? Yes, it's on master:/home/debian/archive/debian-dwn and readable by the Debian (800) group. Regards, Joey -- If nothing changes, everything will remain the same. -- Barne's Law -- To

Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-07 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 12:21:05PM +, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Joel Aelwyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oooh! So the fact that I've shown up in it a few times means I'm part of the Cabal now? No, not by a large margin. I have a cabalometric experiment at

Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-05 Thread MJ Ray
Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe. Call it revenge if you want, but please consider whether there's truth behind them or how one can tell. Your accusations are, as far as I can tell, entirely false. Can you tell? I know at least one is

Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-05 Thread MJ Ray
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The list shows everybody who has more than 1000 points. You are not among them (except if my DWN-parsing script is broken), but MJ himself currently has 2661 points and a ranking of #30. Interesting, but missing any measure of whether I'm being kissed

Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-05 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 01:28:43PM +, MJ Ray wrote: Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The list shows everybody who has more than 1000 points. You are not among them (except if my DWN-parsing script is broken), but MJ himself currently has 2661 points and a ranking of #30.

Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-05 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting, but missing any measure of whether I'm being kissed or kicked. If we are talking about the same publication, then neither. For all the time I have read DWN, its stories have consisted of neutral references to threads on the mailing lists, with no

Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe. Call it revenge if you want, but please consider whether there's truth behind them or how one can tell. Your accusations are, as far as I can tell, entirely false.

Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-05 Thread MJ Ray
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scripsit MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting, but missing any measure of whether I'm being kissed or kicked. If we are talking about the same publication, then neither. For all the time I have read DWN, its stories have consisted of neutral

Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-05 Thread MJ Ray
Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you cannot substantiate them publicly, then they are nothing more than pissing in the wind. Get Message-Id [EMAIL PROTECTED] that was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if it matters that much to you. I don't have a copy here and I've not checked my

Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-05 Thread MJ Ray
Thomas Bushnell BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But one example *cannot* demonstrate your point. [...] I was referring to DWN being one example of communication in debian. Nor, for that matter, does a Message-ID prove anything. You can't say or remember what's in that message, can you? Yes,

Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, it's the message about my first point, where Martin Schulze told me that in-project communication was never a goal of DWN. This exchange illustrates my fifth point: you do not know how DWN actually works and I don't think you can find out reliably. I

Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-04 Thread MJ Ray
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scripsit MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Neither feels that the groups it reports on are their main audience. As far as I can see, the main audience of DWN is Debian developers, package maintainers, and other members of the community. This audience is

Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-04 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 01:26:20AM +, MJ Ray wrote: * They have friends who get puffed regularly, but good news stories about groups on the blacklist can get ignored and/or stuffed at the bottom of the issue. Oooh! So the fact that I've shown up in it a few times means I'm part of

Re: Red-tops, was: Clarification about krooger's platform

2005-03-04 Thread MJ Ray
Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, if someone thinks something should be in DWN, sending a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] really helps. It helps to get a reply a month later with inaccurate inflated rewrites. At least it helped for me everytime I wanted to have something covered.