Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-16 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hi, On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 09:12:25PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > > I so didn't want to get into this discussion, but here goes anyway. > > > > I'm considering formally proposing this GR (option): > > I'm hereby proposing the following genera

Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-15 Thread Loïc Minier
I know there's already a good number of seconds, but I said I'd second this proposal, so here I do: I second the proposal below. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: > On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > > I so didn't want to get into this discussion, but here goes anyway. >

Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-15 Thread Andreas Barth
* Peter Palfrader ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [081114 21:01]: > On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > > I so didn't want to get into this discussion, but here goes anyway. > > > > I'm considering formally proposing this GR (option): > > I'm hereby proposing the following general resolution: >

Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-15 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Peter Palfrader said: > | Firmware is data such as microcode or lookup tables that is loaded into > | hardware components in order to make the component function properly. > | It is not code that is run on the host CPU. > | > | Unfortunately such firmware often is distr

Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-15 Thread Philipp Kern
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 09:12:25PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > I'm hereby proposing the following general resolution: > > | Firmware is data such as microcode or lookup tables that is loaded into > | hardware components in order to make the component function properly. > | It is not code that

Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does this mean that even if the blob is GPL'd, we don't need sources > for it? That sounds like it would be a GPL violation. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-15 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 09:12:25PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > | Therefore the Debian project resolves that > | a) firmware in Debian does not have to come with source. While we do > | prefer firmware that comes with source and documentation we will not > | require it, > | b) we howe

Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-14 Thread Ean Schuessler
- "Charles Plessy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can the secretaries state whether it is a supermajority option or > not? > > If yes, how will we deal with it after it is voted? The GR will not be a > foundation document but will rule over one. It will be hidden between many > other GRs, which

Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-14 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 09:12:25PM +0100, Peter Palfrader a écrit : > > I'm hereby proposing the following general resolution: > > | Firmware is data such as microcode or lookup tables that is loaded into > | hardware components in order to make the component function properly. > | It is not code

Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-14 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
In gmane.linux.debian.devel.vote, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > I'm hereby proposing the following general resolution: > >| Firmware is data such as microcode or lookup tables that is loaded into >| hardware components in order to make the component function properly. >| It is not code that is run on

Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-14 Thread Mark Hymers
On Fri, 14, Nov, 2008 at 09:12:25PM +0100, Peter Palfrader spoke thus.. > I'm hereby proposing the following general resolution: > > | Firmware is data such as microcode or lookup tables that is loaded into > | hardware components in order to make the component function properly. > | It is not cod

Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-14 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-11-14 21:12]: > I'm hereby proposing the following general resolution: > > | Firmware is data such as microcode or lookup tables that is loaded into > | hardware components in order to make the component function properly. > | It is not code that is run

Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 09:12:25PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > >I'm hereby proposing the following general resolution: > >| Firmware is data such as microcode or lookup tables that is loaded into >| hardware components in order to make the component function properly. >| It is not code that is

Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-14 Thread Frans Pop
Peter Palfrader wrote: > I'm hereby proposing the following general resolution: > > | Firmware is data such as microcode or lookup tables that is loaded into > | hardware components in order to make the component function properly. > | It is not code that is run on the host CPU. > | > | Unfortunat

Re: call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-14 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Friday 14 November 2008 21:12, Peter Palfrader wrote: > I'm hereby proposing the following general resolution: > | Firmware is data such as microcode or lookup tables that is loaded into > | hardware components in order to make the component function properly. > | It is not code that is run

call for seconds: on firmware (was: on firmware (possible proposal))

2008-11-14 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote: > I so didn't want to get into this discussion, but here goes anyway. > > I'm considering formally proposing this GR (option): I'm hereby proposing the following general resolution: | Firmware is data such as microcode or lookup tables that is loaded