Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:39:36PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > I'm not sure how to proceed on this non-free issue. > If no one thinks my most recent proposal is worth sponsoring, nor even > criticising, Well, I've already said in the past that I think it'd be better to deal with making the text c

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:39:36PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > I'm not sure how to proceed on this non-free issue. > If no one thinks my most recent proposal is worth sponsoring, nor even > criticising, Well, I've already said in the past that I think it'd be better to deal with making the text c

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Guido Trotter
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:30:58PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: Hi, > > As I understand it, Branden's proposal was resubmitted by Andrew Suffield > in December, in this form: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2003/debian-vote-200312/msg00044.html > > Andrew's December "drop non-free" propo

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:00:59AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > See Jochen's message. I echo his sentiments. > > Right now, I am *completely* confused. I don't remember what issues are > out there, who proposed them, what the current versions are, what their > status is, etc. There were several

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:14:23AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > Maybe some clarification would be good, and once a > > final version is there, then make a call for a proposal. > > I'm a little unclear on what kind of clarification is needed. See Jochen's message. I echo his sentiments. Right n

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:14:23AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:05:51PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > I think the problem is that you got really confusing people by changing > > every now and then. > > I agree. > > > Maybe some clarification would be good, and once a > >

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Guido Trotter
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:30:58PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: Hi, > > As I understand it, Branden's proposal was resubmitted by Andrew Suffield > in December, in this form: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2003/debian-vote-200312/msg00044.html > > Andrew's December "drop non-free" propo

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:05:51PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > I think the problem is that you got really confusing people by changing > every now and then. I agree. > Maybe some clarification would be good, and once a > final version is there, then make a call for a proposal. I'm a little uncle

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:00:59AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > See Jochen's message. I echo his sentiments. > > Right now, I am *completely* confused. I don't remember what issues are > out there, who proposed them, what the current versions are, what their > status is, etc. There were several

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:14:23AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > Maybe some clarification would be good, and once a > > final version is there, then make a call for a proposal. > > I'm a little unclear on what kind of clarification is needed. See Jochen's message. I echo his sentiments. Right n

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:14:23AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:05:51PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > I think the problem is that you got really confusing people by changing > > every now and then. > > I agree. > > > Maybe some clarification would be good, and once a > >

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:05:51PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > I think the problem is that you got really confusing people by changing > every now and then. I agree. > Maybe some clarification would be good, and once a > final version is there, then make a call for a proposal. I'm a little uncle

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 10:52:14PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:31:36PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > I am confused. Did not several people second earlier versions of your, > > and others', proposals? > > The most any proposal got was 4 seconds. Five would be needed to

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 04:05:11AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 03:52, Raul Miller wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:31:36PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > > I am confused. Did not several people second earlier versions of your, > > > and others', proposals? > >

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 10:52:14PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:31:36PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > I am confused. Did not several people second earlier versions of your, > > and others', proposals? > > The most any proposal got was 4 seconds. Five would be needed to

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 04:05:11AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 03:52, Raul Miller wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:31:36PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > > I am confused. Did not several people second earlier versions of your, > > > and others', proposals? > >

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-16 Thread Raul Miller
> > The most any proposal got was 4 seconds. Five would be needed to > > introduce an amendment. On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 04:05:11AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > Really? I count 6 seconds of Andrew Suffield's proposal of Jan 10 > 22:01: I was talking about my proposals, not Andrew's. --

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-16 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 03:52, Raul Miller wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:31:36PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > I am confused. Did not several people second earlier versions of your, > > and others', proposals? > > The most any proposal got was 4 seconds. Five would be needed to > introduce

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-16 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:31:36PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > I am confused. Did not several people second earlier versions of your, > and others', proposals? The most any proposal got was 4 seconds. Five would be needed to introduce an amendment. Also, while I personally think my post recent

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-16 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:39:36PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > I'm not sure how to proceed on this non-free issue. > > If no one thinks my most recent proposal is worth sponsoring, nor even > criticising, I guess I should just drop it? > > [And, if no one cares to resurrect an earlier version,

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-16 Thread Raul Miller
> > The most any proposal got was 4 seconds. Five would be needed to > > introduce an amendment. On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 04:05:11AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > Really? I count 6 seconds of Andrew Suffield's proposal of Jan 10 > 22:01: I was talking about my proposals, not Andrew's. --

resounding nothingness

2004-02-16 Thread Raul Miller
I'm not sure how to proceed on this non-free issue. If no one thinks my most recent proposal is worth sponsoring, nor even criticising, I guess I should just drop it? [And, if no one cares to resurrect an earlier version, ...] Thanks, -- Raul

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-16 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 03:52, Raul Miller wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:31:36PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > I am confused. Did not several people second earlier versions of your, > > and others', proposals? > > The most any proposal got was 4 seconds. Five would be needed to > introduce

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-16 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:31:36PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > I am confused. Did not several people second earlier versions of your, > and others', proposals? The most any proposal got was 4 seconds. Five would be needed to introduce an amendment. Also, while I personally think my post recent

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-16 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:39:36PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > I'm not sure how to proceed on this non-free issue. > > If no one thinks my most recent proposal is worth sponsoring, nor even > criticising, I guess I should just drop it? > > [And, if no one cares to resurrect an earlier version,

resounding nothingness

2004-02-16 Thread Raul Miller
I'm not sure how to proceed on this non-free issue. If no one thinks my most recent proposal is worth sponsoring, nor even criticising, I guess I should just drop it? [And, if no one cares to resurrect an earlier version, ...] Thanks, -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]