Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-17 Thread Gergely Nagy
Since my thoughts have been pretty much summed up far better than I could, I'd like to refer to Stefano's answers, as - apart from the experience bits, as I obviously have no DPL experience - are very much like my own would have been. Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes: On Mon, Mar 12,

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 12. März 2012, Arno Töll wrote: We sponsored both, Debian and DebConf in the past but my boss does not feel very comfortable to sponsor DebConfs because he's more interested to support actual Debian work as a distribution, as Debian is the system we rely upon for our business.

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-13 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:13:38AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: But I've learned that we need to communicate this a whole lot better. Ideas how ... would be best directed to debian-project :) Neil -- A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? gpg key -

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Stefano, On Montag, 12. März 2012, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: (Note/reminder: we have resolved last year that DebConf budget is part of Debian budget, it is just earmarked differently for a time period centered around the conference.) IIRC you still need to reply to a mail I sent to leader@

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-13 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:56:00PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: IIRC you still need to reply to a mail I sent to leader@ about this, where I question this or maybe parts of it :-) Let me summarize: I don't think so :-), but I might be wrong of course. Please prod me at leader@d.o if you confirm

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-13 Thread Gunnar Wolf
I'm redirecting this thread to d-project... You and I tend to think about money very much DebConf-wise (specially in the March-July period ;-) ), but I think this is going away from the current d-vote topic. Please reply to this message to d-project only. Holger Levsen dijo [Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-12 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:16:42AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi, This is a question for all candidates. Over the years, I've always been very surprised to see that there's very little money that Debian is able to get. I don't agree with that assessment. I do think Debian is able to get

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-12 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 03/12/2012 09:00 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Having said all that, provided we don't overdo it, having more money isn't necessarily a bad thing. If there are ways to attract more money from donators, we should do so. I don't think sending letters to companies is going to accomplish that,

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-12 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
On 12.3.2012, at 10.00, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Of course, it's unfortunate that the full details are not available. There's been work on making Debian's monetary details more transparent, but AFAIK there hasn't been anything made public on that yet. I suppose this is something that will

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-12 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 09:21:32AM +0100, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: On 03/12/2012 09:00 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Having said all that, provided we don't overdo it, having more money isn't necessarily a bad thing. If there are ways to attract more money from donators, we should do so. I don't

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:16:42AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Over the years, I've always been very surprised to see that there's very little money that Debian is able to get. I'm convinced that this situation could change with a bit of involvement from the DPL, and that such money could

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:09:09AM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: Well, most of the Debian monetary assets are held by SPI, and the SPI reports their assets publicly (the board meeting minutes), so this isn't a huge problem. It would be nice if the auditors would release a public yearly summary,

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-12 Thread Arno Töll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, On 12.03.2012 19:25, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:16:42AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: Over the years, I've always been very surprised to see that there's very little money that Debian is able to get. I'm convinced

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Arno Töll wrote: as somebody who pushed $work to donate money to Debian (i.e. via FFIS), I always wondered about the financial merits of these donations. As much as I am involved to work within Debian, I have no clue what you used our money for. I am probably not literally interested what for

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 09:55:25PM +0100, Arno Töll wrote: as somebody who pushed $work to donate money to Debian (i.e. via FFIS), I always wondered about the financial merits of these donations. As much as I am involved to work within Debian, I have no clue what you used our money for. I am

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-12 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Arno Töll dijo [Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 09:55:25PM +0100]: as somebody who pushed $work to donate money to Debian (i.e. via FFIS), I always wondered about the financial merits of these donations. As much as I am involved to work within Debian, I have no clue what you used our money for. I am

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-12 Thread Arno Töll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 12.03.2012 23:19, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Actually, $boss asked me the other day how to support Debian better as he wasn't very convinced about usefulness of money donations to Debian as he didn't get much feedback about that, other than a tax

Re: Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-12 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/13/2012 12:18 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: we could put a note in the release notes or in the installation manual Do you *seriously* think that this would help? :) and/or put something on the website We have this on our from page already (eg: the Donations link). Thomas -- To

Finding sponsors for Debian

2012-03-11 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi, This is a question for all candidates. Over the years, I've always been very surprised to see that there's very little money that Debian is able to get. I'm convinced that this situation could change with a bit of involvement from the DPL, and that such money could help a lot the project.