Bug#347832: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-29 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 21:53, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is no difference between decoders and encoders. Both require > patent licenses. There are a few references to a statement by some of > the patent holders (Thomson IIRC, the company representing one of the > larg

Bug#347832: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 19:58 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 17:40, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 17:08 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > > MP3 software does not belong in Debian/main. Unlike many patents the > > > MPEG patents probably

Bug#347832: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 25 janvier 2006 à 11:53 +0100, Florian Weimer a écrit : > Just to clarify since you put that emphasis on decoding: > > There is no difference between decoders and encoders. Both require > patent licenses. But as I understand it, only the encoding patents are enforceable. If we start

Bug#347832: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-25 Thread Florian Weimer
* Josselin Mouette: > We are talking about a MP3 *decoding* plugin. Like the ones we > already have in so many packages we have stopped counting. Just to clarify since you put that emphasis on decoding: There is no difference between decoders and encoders. Both require patent licenses. There a

Bug#347832: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-25 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 17:40, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 17:08 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > MP3 software does not belong in Debian/main. Unlike many patents the > > MPEG patents probably have a good basis. > > To make it clear, this is a *radical* div

Bug#347832: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 25 janvier 2006 à 17:08 +1100, Russell Coker a écrit : > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 12:10, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2) We take the patent issue seriously, and drop all MP3 support. > > MP3 software does not belong in Debian/main. Unlike many patents the MPEG >

Bug#347832: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-24 Thread Daniel Baumann
Joe Wreschnig wrote: > Are you going to sign the contract? I'm sure not putting my signature on > anything about MP3s. I'm afraid I can't as a poor little NM :) > How does Debian sign a contract anyway? I was in a simliar situation with Real, where they wanted to have signed a contract by a DD.

Bug#347832: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-24 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 07:59 +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote: > Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > To get this license one must agree to a contract that forbids > > modification and further redistribution. It's not going to happen for > > Debian. > > Ok, when its not DFSG-compliant but redistributable, why not p

Bug#347832: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-24 Thread Daniel Baumann
Joe Wreschnig wrote: > To get this license one must agree to a contract that forbids > modification and further redistribution. It's not going to happen for > Debian. Ok, when its not DFSG-compliant but redistributable, why not put it in non-free (except personal reasons like 'I don't support non-

Bug#347832: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-24 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 07:49 +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote: > Russell Coker wrote: > > MP3 software does not belong in Debian/main. Unlike many patents the MPEG > > patents probably have a good basis. > > > > Any software which is based on Frauhoffer patents (MP3 and other similar > > encoding sys

Bug#347832: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-24 Thread Daniel Baumann
Russell Coker wrote: > MP3 software does not belong in Debian/main. Unlike many patents the MPEG > patents probably have a good basis. > > Any software which is based on Frauhoffer patents (MP3 and other similar > encoding systems) should be on an external archive. >From a technical point of v

Bug#347832: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-24 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 17:08 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 12:10, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2) We take the patent issue seriously, and drop all MP3 support. > > MP3 software does not belong in Debian/main. Unlike many patents the MPEG > patents pro