Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work? (was: RFS: gnetworktester)

2011-03-15 Thread W. Martin Borgert
(out of curiosity moved to debian-legal) On 2011-03-05 23:46, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > gnetworktester seems to parse the output of nmap and nmap upstream at > http://insecure.org/nmap/data/COPYING gives me the impression that > gnetworktester would thus be "derivative work". IANAL, but since

Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work?

2011-03-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 09 mars 2011 à 11:27 +, Noel David Torres Taño a écrit : > > Miriam Ruiz wrote: > > In general, I do agree with Miriam that parsing the output of another > > program does not make a derivative work. But just to give an example > > of where it does happen, git is largely comprised

Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work?

2011-03-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 08 mars 2011 à 07:30 -0800, Ken Arromdee a écrit : > >> Parsing the output of a program doesn’t make a derivative work. However, > >> if this parsing is vital for the operation of the application and makes > >> it useless without that program, what is the difference with dynamic > >> link

Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work?

2011-03-15 Thread Ken Arromdee
The distinction between a derivative work and a separate work is not based on technology but on functionality. Parsing the output of a program doesn’t make a derivative work. However, if this parsing is vital for the operation of the application and makes it useless without that program, what is

Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work? (was: RFS: gnetworktester)

2011-03-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 06 mars 2011 à 12:04 +0100, W. Martin Borgert a écrit : > (out of curiosity moved to debian-legal) > > On 2011-03-05 23:46, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > > gnetworktester seems to parse the output of nmap and nmap upstream at > > http://insecure.org/nmap/data/COPYING gives me the impr

Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work?

2011-03-15 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2011/3/8 Mahyuddin Susanto : >> Parsing the output of a program doesn’t make a derivative work. However, >> if this parsing is vital for the operation of the application and makes >> it useless without that program, what is the difference with dynamic >> linking to a library? To a programmer, there

Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work?

2011-03-15 Thread Noel David Torres Taño
> Miriam Ruiz wrote: > > In general, I wouldn't consider parsing the output of another > > program to de a derivative work. > > In general, I do agree with Miriam that parsing the output of another > program does not make a derivative work. But just to give an example > of where it does happen,

Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work?

2011-03-15 Thread Mahyuddin Susanto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/06/2011 11:51 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le dimanche 06 mars 2011 à 12:04 +0100, W. Martin Borgert a écrit : >> (out of curiosity moved to debian-legal) >> >> On 2011-03-05 23:46, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: >>> gnetworktester seems to pars

Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work? (was: RFS: gnetworktester)

2011-03-15 Thread Tim Brown
--nextPart2958378.qgascxSZ95 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday 06 March 2011 11:04:35 W. Martin Borgert wrote: > (out of curiosity moved to debian-legal) >=20 > On 2011-03-05 23:46, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > > gnetworktester seems

Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work?

2011-03-15 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 09:23:22AM -0800, Walter Landry wrote: > Miriam Ruiz wrote: > > In general, I wouldn't consider parsing the output of another > > program to de a derivative work. > > In general, I do agree with Miriam that parsing the output of another > program does not make a derivative

Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work?

2011-03-15 Thread Walter Landry
Miriam Ruiz wrote: > In general, I wouldn't consider parsing the output of another > program to de a derivative work. In general, I do agree with Miriam that parsing the output of another program does not make a derivative work. But just to give an example of where it does happen, git is largely

Bug#570621: Parsing output = derivative work? (was: RFS: gnetworktester)

2011-03-15 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:04:35 +0100 W. Martin Borgert wrote: > (out of curiosity moved to debian-legal) (I guess you intended to ask to keep the other recipients in Cc: if so, you should ask explicitly) > > On 2011-03-05 23:46, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > > gnetworktester seems to parse the out