Your message dated Mon, 27 Dec 2010 22:12:17 +0100
with message-id <201012272212.23696.hol...@layer-acht.org>
and subject line Re: Bug#608098: gnome-core: revert mass migration from 
-desktop-environment to -core
has caused the Debian Bug report #608098,
regarding RFP: gnome-martin-eric-racine - metapackage for Martin-Eric Racine
to be marked as done.

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Package: gnome-core
Version: 2.30+7
Severity: important

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The massive migration of dependencies from gnome-desktop-environment to 
gnome-core is extremely undesirable, because it spoils the usefulness that 
gnome-core used to have in pulling just enough packages to have a basic GNOME 
environment. Now, instead, it pulls WAY too many packages and leaves the user 
without any simple method for installing basic GNOME components.

- -- System Information:
Debian Release: 6.0
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.36-1000-generic (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=fi_FI.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fi_FI.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages gnome-core depends on:
pn  eog                           <none>     (no description available)
pn  gedit                         <none>     (no description available)
pn  gnome-applets                 <none>     (no description available)
pn  gnome-control-center          <none>     (no description available)
pn  gnome-icon-theme              <none>     (no description available)
pn  gnome-menus                   <none>     (no description available)
pn  gnome-panel                   <none>     (no description available)
pn  gnome-power-manager           <none>     (no description available)
pn  gnome-session                 <none>     (no description available)
pn  gnome-settings-daemon         <none>     (no description available)
pn  gnome-terminal                <none>     (no description available)
pn  gvfs                          <none>     (no description available)
pn  metacity | mutter             <none>     (no description available)
pn  nautilus                      <none>     (no description available)
pn  yelp                          <none>     (no description available)

gnome-core recommends no packages.

Versions of packages gnome-core suggests:
pn  gnome-desktop-environment     <none>     (no description available)

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Hi,

closing the bug as its definitly pointless as wnpp and also as bug against 
gnome.</janitor mode>

On Montag, 27. Dezember 2010, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
> > If you need a specific set of packages, please make your metapackages
> > yourself. See brdesktop-gnome for an example of such a recurrent
> > failure.
> Sorry, but am I the only one who considers this reply as pointlessly
> abrasive, inappropriate and offensive?

well, retitling the bug as Joss did is a bit on the edge of abusing the BTS to 
make a point, but it's also probably still within "having fun with technology 
to express an opinion", esp. given that he also gave valid reasons why he 
considered this bug wontfix already in very same mail, and also in his 2nd 
reply (copied to -devel).

So I'm closing this bug as this he didnt do (yet).

And while I dont like that overworked people sometimes react badly (or less 
good) when people put even more load on them, it's a fact. I also dont like 
that people are overworked in the first place, and thats a fact too. (It's 
also a fact that things doesnt have to be that way..)

It's also a fact that humor sometimes doesnt match. Sadly.

But given the serious answers he also gave (and the retitle-joke itself) I 
dont think this humor was abuse. It was a joke, which some people didnt like 
and some didnt find funny. And some laughed. So what.

Personally (and in the piuparts context) I used to be way more relaxed + 
cheerful replying to people who tell me that (they think) their package had 
valid reasons to violate policy - but sadly over time I've become midly 
annoyed and also bored, that I have to spend my time again+again to explain 
why/that policy is there and also applies to this or that package...


cheers,
        Holger

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