Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-12-22 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Mark! I have seen that xemacs21 has been uploaded now, shouldn't we close this ITP now? Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546

Bug#698988: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes: On Sun, 17 Nov 2013, Russ Allbery wrote: Yeah, I know, which is part of why I used it for an example. I looked at it yesterday and will probably adopt it at some point when I have enough free time to do a proper job on the initial upload.

Bug#698988: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013, Russ Allbery wrote: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes: On Sun, 17 Nov 2013, Russ Allbery wrote: Yeah, I know, which is part of why I used it for an example. I looked at it yesterday and will probably adopt it at some point when I have enough free

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-17 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 07:07:21PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: This is what Paul did: When writing just a single sentence it might be reasonable to derive from a role which is good in general but not helpful in specific cases. Please try to make reasonable top-posting-bashings if necessary,

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 09:49:49PM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: Why should Debian carry this package? It's a package that we've carried since forever and which has a userbase. Which virtual packages are you planning to provide? The same set as the package previously did: emacsen,

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 11/16/2013 11:43 AM, Mark Brown wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 09:49:49PM +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: Why should Debian carry this package? It's a package that we've carried since forever and which has a userbase. That's not really an argument. We've also had uae and e-uae (the

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread Bálint Réczey
Hi Mark, 2013/11/15 Mark Brown broo...@debian.org: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mark Brown broo...@debian.org * Package name: xemacs21 Version : 21.4.22 Upstream Author : XEmacs development team URL : http://www.xemacs.org/ License : GPL

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:02:23PM +0100, Bálint Réczey wrote: 2013/11/15 Mark Brown broo...@debian.org: While develoment on xemacs is very slow these days I find it much more visually pleasing than GNU emacs. I know it is mostly personal preference, but what parts of xemacs are notably

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread Bálint Réczey
Hi Mark, 2013/11/16 Mark Brown broo...@debian.org: On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:02:23PM +0100, Bálint Réczey wrote: 2013/11/15 Mark Brown broo...@debian.org: While develoment on xemacs is very slow these days I find it much more visually pleasing than GNU emacs. I know it is mostly

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 12:01:48PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 11/16/2013 11:43 AM, Mark Brown wrote: It's a package that we've carried since forever and which has a userbase. That's not really an argument. We've also had uae and e-uae It is an argument; it might be one

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 11/16/2013 01:10 PM, Mark Brown wrote: Your first mail came with the argument that you think that xemacs is more visually appealing than emacs. Honestly, emacs is primarily a tool and not an optical gimmick. Visual appearance does not bother most users, I'd guess. Most emacs users use the

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 01:02:40PM +0100, Bálint Réczey wrote: I agree that having the scroll bar on the left is quite unusual and it has been changed to having the scrollbar on the right by default in Emacs 24. I don't have XEmacs installed and I'm not sure if the new colors in Emacs 24

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 01:30:01PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 11/16/2013 01:10 PM, Mark Brown wrote: Your assertations here both seem rather strong and unsupported, especially the idea that people don't use Emacs in graphical mode - it I have yet to see someone who does.

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 16 novembre 2013 13:30 CET, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de : I have yet to see someone who does. I'm a long-time emacs user and so are many of other developers I work together with and everyone I know of who uses emacs as their primary editor doesn't use X11

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 05:05:31PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:06:37AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: I was on my phone, thanks for the advice. I laboriously quote-post from my phone all the time. Emails should be optimised for the reader, rather than the

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Mark Brown
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mark Brown broo...@debian.org * Package name: xemacs21 Version : 21.4.22 Upstream Author : XEmacs development team URL : http://www.xemacs.org/ License : GPL Programming Lang: C, elisp Description : highly

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
Hi Mark, On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:02:18PM +, Mark Brown wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mark Brown broo...@debian.org * Package name: xemacs21 Version : 21.4.22 Upstream Author : XEmacs development team URL : http://www.xemacs.org/

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Alberto Garcia
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:02:18PM +, Mark Brown wrote: * Package name: xemacs21 Version : 21.4.22 Wasn't this removed just one month ago? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=725883 Berto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 01:29:50PM +0100, Alberto Garcia wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:02:18PM +, Mark Brown wrote: * Package name: xemacs21 Version : 21.4.22 Wasn't this removed just one month ago? Yes, this is why I'm ITPing it. signature.asc Description: Digital

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 01:16:34PM +0100, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote: Only one note on this: xemacs21 was just removed some months ago, see http://bugs.debian.org/725883 for details. Yes, this is why it needs a new ITP. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Paul R. Tagliamonte
Out of curiosity, how do you plan on solving it's six rc bugs? On Nov 15, 2013 9:10 AM, Mark Brown broo...@debian.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 01:29:50PM +0100, Alberto Garcia wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:02:18PM +, Mark Brown wrote: * Package name: xemacs21

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 09:17:34AM -0500, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote: Don't top post. Out of curiosity, how do you plan on solving it's six rc bugs? Yes, of course. Well, the one that was there when I looked is fixed, I'll see if the BTS tells me about any open ones after the reupload.

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 03:01:46PM +, Mark Brown wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 09:17:34AM -0500, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote: Don't top post. I was on my phone, thanks for the advice. Out of curiosity, how do you plan on solving it's six rc bugs? Yes, of course. Well, the one that

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:06:37AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Before you put this in NEW, how do you plan on fixing the outstanding RC bugs? By making changes to the software. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 03:25:16PM +, Mark Brown wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:06:37AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Before you put this in NEW, how do you plan on fixing the outstanding RC bugs? By making changes to the software. No need to CC me, I'm subscribed. This doesn't

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 03:25:16PM +, Mark Brown wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:06:37AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Before you put this in NEW, how do you plan on fixing the outstanding RC bugs? By making changes to the software. This discussion is getting a tad too

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:39:46AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 03:25:16PM +, Mark Brown wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:06:37AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Before you put this in NEW, how do you plan on fixing the outstanding RC bugs? By making

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 15 November 2013 12:02, Mark Brown broo...@debian.org wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mark Brown broo...@debian.org * Package name: xemacs21 Version : 21.4.22 Upstream Author : XEmacs development team URL : http://www.xemacs.org/ License

Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Andreas Beckmann
There was a nice bunch of (5-digit) bugs being closed with the removal, they should be unarchived, reopened and handled properly if xemacs comes back. from https://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt: = [Date: Sun, 13 Oct