Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-15 Thread Peter Karlsson
Frank Lichtenheld: With the current HTML+CSS code this is a phenomena that strongly depends on fonts and font sizes used. The needed fix is in preparation. I guess the problem is mostly that the sidebar has a fixed size (in pixels) and the links are all set not to word wrap. That's a bad comb

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-15 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 03:44:48PM +0200, Eugeniy Meshcheryakov wrote: > I did not noticed too, but now I see that menu on the left of the main > page does not fit in the blue rectangle on Ukrainian (uk) webpage. This bug > also appear on ca, pt and ru pages. With the current HTML+CSS code this is

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-15 Thread Eugeniy Meshcheryakov
15.12.2004 о 00:45 +0100 Denis Barbier написав(-ла): > On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 02:26:08PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: > [...] > > Feel free to apply the patch and include the debian.css file. I can > > send it by mail, if you do not want to fetch it from the above url. > > > > I'll leave everything

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-15 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Mittwoch, 15.12.04 um 02:30 Uhr schrieb Jutta Wrage: But I want you all to look at one third page with page menu provided: http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/dwww/devel/index2.en.html The menu allows quicker navigation to the parts. Blame me. I munged my files. And it is overwritten. S

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-15 Thread Denis Barbier
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 02:30:39AM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: > > Am Montag, 13.12.04 um 23:26 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: > > >>>http://www.debian.org/devel/index.en.html > >>>http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/dwww/devel/index.en.html > >> > >>There is on the main page an ugly white ruler with

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-15 Thread Denis Barbier
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 03:22:30AM +0100, Frédéric Bothamy wrote: > Here are two remarks/complaints: > > - the CD pages don't validate any more Fixed now. Denis

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-14 Thread Frédéric Bothamy
* Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-12-15 00:45] : > On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 02:26:08PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: > [...] > > Feel free to apply the patch and include the debian.css file. I can > > send it by mail, if you do not want to fetch it from the above url. > > > > I'll leave everyt

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-14 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 03:06:50AM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: > - There is missed something to skip over the menu Yeah, I tried to propose that at the beginning of the discussion but you didn't understood what I meant ;) > - A menu at the bottom of page could be useful, too > - On large pages, the

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-14 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Mittwoch, 15.12.04 um 00:45 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: As there have been no complaints so far, I guess that it is time to go further and now propose navigation/layout/accessibility changes to see if we can improve the current web site. For the accessibility issue I am already asking in th

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-14 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Montag, 13.12.04 um 23:26 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: http://www.debian.org/devel/index.en.html http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/dwww/devel/index.en.html There is on the main page an ugly white ruler with black on white settings. Otherwise it looks good. I meant white on black, sorry

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-14 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 02:26:08PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: [...] > Feel free to apply the patch and include the debian.css file. I can > send it by mail, if you do not want to fetch it from the above url. > > I'll leave everything in place here. So if you want later changes, I > can make them

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-13 Thread Denis Barbier
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 10:30:42PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 02:13:42PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: > [...] > > Can you please compare the next two URLS: > > > > http://www.debian.org/devel/index.en.html > > http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/dwww/devel/index.en.html >

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-13 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 02:13:42PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: [...] > Can you please compare the next two URLS: > > http://www.debian.org/devel/index.en.html > http://www.witch.westfalen.de/debian/dwww/devel/index.en.html There is on the main page an ugly white ruler with black on white settings.

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-13 Thread Denis Barbier
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 05:42:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 21:32:32 +0100, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > I build all English pages after applying Jutta's patch, available at > >http://people.debian.org/~barbier/juttaw/ > > Please test these pages, I

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-13 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 02:13:42PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 12.12.04 um 03:28 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: > > >Looks good. I think the padding could use another increase, though, to > >make the menu entries easier to distinguish. > > Can you be a bit more specific? Padding be

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-13 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 05:42:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> Not Found > >> The requested URL /~barbier/juttaw/vote/ was not found on this server. > > Do the vote pages turn out OK? Including the stats for > previous votes? Looks all good to me. We could perhaps find a better pla

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 21:32:32 +0100, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I build all English pages after applying Jutta's patch, available at >http://people.debian.org/~barbier/juttaw/ > Please test these pages, I am willing to commit this patch soon. I was wondering how the vote

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-12 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Sonntag, 12.12.04 um 03:28 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: Looks good. I think the padding could use another increase, though, to make the menu entries easier to distinguish. Can you be a bit more specific? Padding between main entries? Padding between subentries? Padding between last sube

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-11 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 01:14:37AM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: > I've found a better solution for the menu now (without fix width). > > The margin for maincol remains, but the leftcol now has flexible width. > In addition I made a nested UL out of the left menu. > > You should consider making the m

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-11 Thread Jutta Wrage
Hi! I've found a better solution for the menu now (without fix width). The margin for maincol remains, but the leftcol now has flexible width. In addition I made a nested UL out of the left menu. You should consider making the main content flowing around the menu though. http://www.witch.wes

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-09 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Freitag, 10.12.04 um 00:46 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: How are we supposed to load several CSS files? I think, language specific css files can be created by script. But I'll search for another solution (auto width). I am not sure, if that will work, but give me some time to try. greetin

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-09 Thread Denis Barbier
On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 12:22:29AM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: > > Am Freitag, 10.12.04 um 00:09 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: > > >Leftcol width (and thus maincol left-margin) should certainly be > >language > >dependent. Can we deal with several CSS (and how?), or do we have to > >provide a whole

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-09 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Freitag, 10.12.04 um 00:09 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: Leftcol width (and thus maincol left-margin) should certainly be language dependent. Can we deal with several CSS (and how?), or do we have to provide a whole CSS file per language? We fixed that a bit. But I'll search for a better so

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-09 Thread Denis Barbier
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 01:36:45PM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 02:51:17AM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 10:41:59PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > > > And a new new version: I removed the

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-09 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Donnerstag, 09.12.04 um 13:36 Uhr schrieb Frank Lichtenheld: This problem is really ugly for the German front page as I just had to realize (http://higgs.djpig.de/debian-www/index.de.html). I hesitate to apply the patch therefor... Thats's easy to fix: add to the leftcol the same amount of

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-09 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 02:55:25PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > [Sorry for breaking this thread by using this webmail] > > IMO there are 2 distinct problems: CSS and HTML. If only CSS needs to be > fixed, there is no reason to not apply the patch and fix debian.css later, > this can be done very

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-09 Thread Denis Barbier
[Frank Lichtenheld] > On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 02:51:17AM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 10:41:59PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > > > And a new new version: I removed the

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-09 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 02:51:17AM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 10:41:59PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > > And a new new version: I removed the

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-09 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 02:51:17AM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 10:41:59PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > > And a new new version: I removed the

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-08 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 10:41:59PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > And a new new version: I removed the

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-08 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 10:24:01PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > I just updated newmaint/Makefile to copy debian.css into $(TARGETDIR), > we can apply the patch and see what is broken. Jutta can help fixing > CSS bugs after 20:00 CET (IIRC, I did not log our IRC conversation), > so this patch coul

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-07 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-12-07 22:24]: > > > nm.debian.org does not get affected by these changes. We did not have > > > time yet to check that they do not break nm.d.o and this is not trivial. > > > Martin, could you please check if these changes have no bad impact on > > > nm.d.

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-07 Thread Denis Barbier
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 08:00:20AM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 07:54:58AM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > > Here is an updated patch. > > Yep. And a new new version: I removed the

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-07 Thread Denis Barbier
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 01:27:17PM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 07:54:58AM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > > Here is an updated patch. It will surely be applied on Thursday, > > but before that I will duplicate current templates files so that > > nm.debian.org does not g

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-07 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 07:54:58AM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > Here is an updated patch. It will surely be applied on Thursday, > but before that I will duplicate current templates files so that > nm.debian.org does not get affected by these changes. We did not have > time yet to check that the

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-07 Thread Denis Barbier
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 07:54:58AM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > Here is an updated patch. Yep. Denis Index: basic.wml === RCS file: /cvs/webwml/webwml/english/template/debian/basic.wml,v retrieving revision 1.78 diff -u -r1.78 basic

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-07 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 11:11:24PM +0100, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 02:26:08PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: > > Thanks to those Developers looking into the pages (especially if they > > did not get worse for blind people)! > > > > Feel free to apply the patch and include th

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-06 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Sonntag, 05.12.04 um 21:32 Uhr schrieb Denis Barbier: The only problems I can see are about debian.css: * I dislike centered text in the footer * Some text overlaps when using large fonts (e.g. in leftcol). Maybe debian.css should first be committed into CVS so that we can all work on fi

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-05 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 02:26:08PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: > Thanks to those Developers looking into the pages (especially if they > did not get worse for blind people)! > > Feel free to apply the patch and include the debian.css file. I can > send it by mail, if you do not want to fetch it f

Re: Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-05 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 02:26:08PM +0100, Jutta Wrage wrote: > Hi! > > After Denis' revision of the templates it was much easier to apply css > to the debian website. > > The css file itself will go to subdir/english and is not included in > the patch attached to this message. > > English lang

Patch debian-www with css

2004-12-05 Thread Jutta Wrage
Hi! After Denis' revision of the templates it was much easier to apply css to the debian website. The css file itself will go to subdir/english and is not included in the patch attached to this message. English language pages (I'll do two more today) built with patch attached will be found