Re: wanna try x4, but will it improve my experience?

2000-09-08 Thread Seth R Arnold
* Nathan Pilatzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000908 18:06]: > I want to try XFree4, and the debs are sounding pretty stable now > (although I might just install from source for testing before I trash > 3.3.6). Can anyone tell me if it will improve my graphics performance, > because I'm not using fancy h

wanna try x4, but will it improve my experience?

2000-09-08 Thread Nathan Pilatzke
I want to try XFree4, and the debs are sounding pretty stable now (although I might just install from source for testing before I trash 3.3.6). Can anyone tell me if it will improve my graphics performance, because I'm not using fancy hardware, just an older laptop with a Chips & Tech 1MB 800x600x

Re: Clicks when scrolling

2000-09-08 Thread David Starner
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 04:00:34PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 02:47:35PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > I installed the X4 debs, and I'm running Phase 2v3. If something changes > > quickly in an xterm or a powershell, I can get clicks on the speakers. > > If I scroll

ppc manifest

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
This one builds packages :) I'm sure there's stuff that still needs fixing, but we have test packages now. Dan /\ /\ | Daniel Jacobowitz|__|SCS Class of 2002 | | Debian GNU/Linux Developer__Car

more ppc changes

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
Things not in the patches tarball: I had to delete xlibs.files.powerpc and move xlibs.files.i386 back to xlibs.files (now that libxrx is enabled). I also had to remove SuperProbe.1x from xutils.files.powerpc. Dan /\ /\ | Dan

xf4 breaks xboing

2000-09-08 Thread Aaron Lehmann
With the latest phase2: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ xboing XBoing - Please wait Debian Linux User, initialising xboing ... XBoing - Error: Xlib Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) Please read `/usr/share/doc/xboing/problems.doc.gz' document for help. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ This has happe

Re: wanna try x4, but will it improve my experience?

2000-09-08 Thread Seth R Arnold
* Nathan Pilatzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000908 18:06]: > I want to try XFree4, and the debs are sounding pretty stable now > (although I might just install from source for testing before I trash > 3.3.6). Can anyone tell me if it will improve my graphics performance, > because I'm not using fancy

wanna try x4, but will it improve my experience?

2000-09-08 Thread Nathan Pilatzke
I want to try XFree4, and the debs are sounding pretty stable now (although I might just install from source for testing before I trash 3.3.6). Can anyone tell me if it will improve my graphics performance, because I'm not using fancy hardware, just an older laptop with a Chips & Tech 1MB 800x600

Re: Clicks when scrolling

2000-09-08 Thread David Starner
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 04:00:34PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 02:47:35PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > I installed the X4 debs, and I'm running Phase 2v3. If something changes > > quickly in an xterm or a powershell, I can get clicks on the speakers. > > If I scrol

ppc manifest

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
This one builds packages :) I'm sure there's stuff that still needs fixing, but we have test packages now. Dan /\ /\ | Daniel Jacobowitz|__|SCS Class of 2002 | | Debian GNU/Linux Developer__Ca

more ppc changes

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
Things not in the patches tarball: I had to delete xlibs.files.powerpc and move xlibs.files.i386 back to xlibs.files (now that libxrx is enabled). I also had to remove SuperProbe.1x from xutils.files.powerpc. Dan /\ /\ | Da

xf4 breaks xboing

2000-09-08 Thread Aaron Lehmann
With the latest phase2: [aaronl@endquote:~]$ xboing XBoing - Please wait Debian Linux User, initialising xboing ... XBoing - Error: Xlib Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) Please read `/usr/share/doc/xboing/problems.doc.gz' document for help. [aaronl@endquote:~]$ This has happen

Re: Clicks when scrolling

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 02:47:35PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > I installed the X4 debs, and I'm running Phase 2v3. If something changes > quickly in an xterm or a powershell, I can get clicks on the speakers. > If I scroll a large file quickly in an Xterm, I can (a) degrade > the playing quality

Re: more ppc patches

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 02:50:41PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > Actually, the MANIFEST.powerpc predates the patches to re-enable libOSMesa > > and libxrx. So at least either the MANIFEST or the patches are wrong. > > Should have another version in a few hours. > > I don't think I ever appl

Re: more ppc patches

2000-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 03:33:26PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > These are not fully tested, but should at least be an improvement... If it will get 3Dfx users off my back I will be happy. (I'm a 3Dfx user myself.) > Actually, the MANIFEST.powerpc predates the patches to re-enable libOSMesa

Clicks when scrolling

2000-09-08 Thread David Starner
I installed the X4 debs, and I'm running Phase 2v3. If something changes quickly in an xterm or a powershell, I can get clicks on the speakers. If I scroll a large file quickly in an Xterm, I can (a) degrade the playing quality of an mp3 unacceptably and (b) get the XServer to use up 60% CPU time

more ppc patches

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
Speaking of PPC patches, here's more. Lots more. Replace the previous copies. These are not fully tested, but should at least be an improvement... Actually, the MANIFEST.powerpc predates the patches to re-enable libOSMesa and libxrx. So at least either the MANIFEST or the patches are wrong. Sh

READMEs

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
For those of us who would rather read READMEs about this sort of thing, where the heck ARE they? In the packages? They're sure not on samosa, and the X Strike Force doesn't say anything about 3dfx. Dan /\ /\ | Daniel Jacobow

Re: [andoni@txiringo.dyndns.org: a bug]

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 01:51:01PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Yet another problem from a 3Dfx user who didn't read the README. > > I wonder if Dan's PowerPC patches caused this. Oh, I didn't even realize you'd built with those applied! I'll look. Dan /\

[andoni@txiringo.dyndns.org: a bug]

2000-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
Yet another problem from a 3Dfx user who didn't read the README. I wonder if Dan's PowerPC patches caused this. - Forwarded message from Andoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Andoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: a bug Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 17:14:35 +0200 (CEST) Delivere

[killer@fleming.u-psud.fr: problem with phase1-2 of xf4 .debs]

2000-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
Please report problems with the XFree86 4.0 test packages to debian-x@lists.debian.org Packages depending on xpm4g instead of libxpm4 is a bug in the package, not a bug in xlibs. Please file bugs against the affected packages. You'll note that I have prepared NMU's of 4 packages to fix this prob

[skavhaug@ifi.uio.no: 4.0.1-phase2v3 Fatal server error]

2000-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
Another who didn't read the README... - Forwarded message from Ola Skavhaug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Ola Skavhaug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 4.0.1-phase2v3 Fatal server error Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 15:35:17 +0200 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMA

[david@fortyoz.org: 3dfx driver woes]

2000-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
Looks like people aren't reading the README. - Forwarded message from David Raufeisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: David Raufeisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3dfx driver woes Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 02:11:15 -0700 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL P

Re: Clicks when scrolling

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 02:47:35PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > I installed the X4 debs, and I'm running Phase 2v3. If something changes > quickly in an xterm or a powershell, I can get clicks on the speakers. > If I scroll a large file quickly in an Xterm, I can (a) degrade > the playing qualit

Re: more ppc patches

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 02:50:41PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > Actually, the MANIFEST.powerpc predates the patches to re-enable libOSMesa > > and libxrx. So at least either the MANIFEST or the patches are wrong. > > Should have another version in a few hours. > > I don't think I ever app

Re: more ppc patches

2000-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 03:33:26PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > These are not fully tested, but should at least be an improvement... If it will get 3Dfx users off my back I will be happy. (I'm a 3Dfx user myself.) > Actually, the MANIFEST.powerpc predates the patches to re-enable libOSMesa

Clicks when scrolling

2000-09-08 Thread David Starner
I installed the X4 debs, and I'm running Phase 2v3. If something changes quickly in an xterm or a powershell, I can get clicks on the speakers. If I scroll a large file quickly in an Xterm, I can (a) degrade the playing quality of an mp3 unacceptably and (b) get the XServer to use up 60% CPU time

more ppc patches

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
Speaking of PPC patches, here's more. Lots more. Replace the previous copies. These are not fully tested, but should at least be an improvement... Actually, the MANIFEST.powerpc predates the patches to re-enable libOSMesa and libxrx. So at least either the MANIFEST or the patches are wrong. S

READMEs

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
For those of us who would rather read READMEs about this sort of thing, where the heck ARE they? In the packages? They're sure not on samosa, and the X Strike Force doesn't say anything about 3dfx. Dan /\ /\ | Daniel Jacobo

Re: [andoni@txiringo.dyndns.org: a bug]

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 01:51:01PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Yet another problem from a 3Dfx user who didn't read the README. > > I wonder if Dan's PowerPC patches caused this. Oh, I didn't even realize you'd built with those applied! I'll look. Dan /\

[andoni@txiringo.dyndns.org: a bug]

2000-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
Yet another problem from a 3Dfx user who didn't read the README. I wonder if Dan's PowerPC patches caused this. - Forwarded message from Andoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Andoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: a bug Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 17:14:35 +0200 (CEST) Deliver

[killer@fleming.u-psud.fr: problem with phase1-2 of xf4 .debs]

2000-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
Please report problems with the XFree86 4.0 test packages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Packages depending on xpm4g instead of libxpm4 is a bug in the package, not a bug in xlibs. Please file bugs against the affected packages. You'll note that I have prepared NMU's of 4 packages to fix this problem (fv

[skavhaug@ifi.uio.no: 4.0.1-phase2v3 Fatal server error]

2000-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
Another who didn't read the README... - Forwarded message from Ola Skavhaug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Ola Skavhaug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 4.0.1-phase2v3 Fatal server error Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 15:35:17 +0200 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EM

[david@fortyoz.org: 3dfx driver woes]

2000-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
Looks like people aren't reading the README. - Forwarded message from David Raufeisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: David Raufeisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3dfx driver woes Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 02:11:15 -0700 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL

Re: X ate my console + some other glitches

2000-09-08 Thread dancer
Same here, on my TNT2 viper v770. Every time X starts up, the brightness of the text on the virtual consoles is halved. After about 3 goes round, the consoles are unusable, though X continues to display at the expected brightness. I'm certain this is an upstream problem, and not a debian one. D

Re: Installed XFree86 4.0.1-0phase1v18 -- some questions

2000-09-08 Thread Torbjörn Andersson
(Thanks to Chris Pimlott for pointing me to a more up-to-date mailing list archive so that I could finally read the reply.) Branden Robinson wrote: > Darn. phase1v19 has been out for a few days. Yeah, I noticed. And now that I've installed phase1v19, it seems phase2 is already well underway. I

Re: X ate my console + some other glitches

2000-09-08 Thread dancer
Same here, on my TNT2 viper v770. Every time X starts up, the brightness of the text on the virtual consoles is halved. After about 3 goes round, the consoles are unusable, though X continues to display at the expected brightness. I'm certain this is an upstream problem, and not a debian one. D

Re: Archives.

2000-09-08 Thread Chris Pimlott
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Torbj?rn Andersson wrote: > Is this list archived anywhere else than at http://lists.debian.org? www.mail-archive.com seems to archive just about everything. Right now though the most recent posts there is from 9/6/00. http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-x

Re: Archives.

2000-09-08 Thread Martin Koch
On 08.09, 20:28, James Bromberger wrote: > Anyway, since now there is phase 2, and I haven't been able to see any > debian-x traffic due to the abovementioned, can someone please tell me > what the sources.list line is. I was trying: > deb http://samosa.debian.org/~branden/woody i386/ Her

Re: Installed XFree86 4.0.1-0phase1v18 -- some questions

2000-09-08 Thread Torbjörn Andersson
(Thanks to Chris Pimlott for pointing me to a more up-to-date mailing list archive so that I could finally read the reply.) Branden Robinson wrote: > Darn. phase1v19 has been out for a few days. Yeah, I noticed. And now that I've installed phase1v19, it seems phase2 is already well underway. I

Re: XFree86 -configure and bad mouse problem

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 07:41:44AM -0400, Buddha Buck wrote: > > Buddha Buck wrote: > > > > > At some point in the past, my /dev/mouse got to be a link to a named > > > pipe created by gpm (I think it was "gpmdata", but I could be wrong. > > > > > > I don't use gpm, so there was noting to listen

Re: Archives.

2000-09-08 Thread Torbjörn Andersson
> OK, I have bitten the bullet here and subscribed. The archive on > lists.debian.org seems to have broken for the second month in a row, > thus in place of following developments via occassional fits of archive > snooping, I am now here. You too, eh? I made the mistake of sending my first mai

Archives.

2000-09-08 Thread James Bromberger
OK, I have bitten the bullet here and subscribed. The archive on lists.debian.org seems to have broken for the second month in a row, thus in place of following developments via occassional fits of archive snooping, I am now here. Anyway, since now there is phase 2, and I haven't been able to

X ate my console too.

2000-09-08 Thread Mads Buus Jensen
Hi, I have the same problem exactly, and ever since I tried the very first releases of Xfree4. I have no idea where the cause is, but it is annoying to not see what you're writing :-) -Mads Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi all, > > Encouraged by the transition from phase1 to ph

Re: X ate my console + some other glitches

2000-09-08 Thread Roland Mas
Roland Mas (2000-09-08 12:14:10 +0200) : > Other problem (bigger): once I find that I have to run XFree86, do > some stuff (mainly work :-), then I quit. Supposedly I should find my > good ole console again, huh? Well, I do, but the screen keeps black. > I can use the console if I know what to

Re: Archives.

2000-09-08 Thread Chris Pimlott
On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Torbjörn Andersson wrote: > Is this list archived anywhere else than at http://lists.debian.org? www.mail-archive.com seems to archive just about everything. Right now though the most recent posts there is from 9/6/00. http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-

Re: XFree86 -configure and bad mouse problem

2000-09-08 Thread Buddha Buck
> Buddha Buck wrote: > > > At some point in the past, my /dev/mouse got to be a link to a named > > pipe created by gpm (I think it was "gpmdata", but I could be wrong. > > > > I don't use gpm, so there was noting to listen to on that pipe. > > > > When I ran "XFree86 -configure", it switched m

Re: Archives.

2000-09-08 Thread Martin Koch
On 08.09, 20:28, James Bromberger wrote: > Anyway, since now there is phase 2, and I haven't been able to see any > debian-x traffic due to the abovementioned, can someone please tell me > what the sources.list line is. I was trying: > deb http://samosa.debian.org/~branden/woody i386/ He

Re: XFree86 -configure and bad mouse problem

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 07:41:44AM -0400, Buddha Buck wrote: > > Buddha Buck wrote: > > > > > At some point in the past, my /dev/mouse got to be a link to a named > > > pipe created by gpm (I think it was "gpmdata", but I could be wrong. > > > > > > I don't use gpm, so there was noting to liste

Re: Archives.

2000-09-08 Thread Torbjörn Andersson
> OK, I have bitten the bullet here and subscribed. The archive on > lists.debian.org seems to have broken for the second month in a row, > thus in place of following developments via occassional fits of archive > snooping, I am now here. You too, eh? I made the mistake of sending my first ma

Archives.

2000-09-08 Thread James Bromberger
OK, I have bitten the bullet here and subscribed. The archive on lists.debian.org seems to have broken for the second month in a row, thus in place of following developments via occassional fits of archive snooping, I am now here. Anyway, since now there is phase 2, and I haven't been able t

X ate my console + some other glitches

2000-09-08 Thread Roland Mas
Hi all, Encouraged by the transition from phase1 to phase2, I decided to switch to Xfree86 4.0.1. Okay, so I twitched my sources.list file, and here goes. My hardware is this: video card is a Riva TNT2 with 32 Mb RAM, monitor is a Dell P991 (19", good stuff), PS/2 mouse, French 105-key key

X ate my console too.

2000-09-08 Thread Mads Buus Jensen
Hi, I have the same problem exactly, and ever since I tried the very first releases of Xfree4. I have no idea where the cause is, but it is annoying to not see what you're writing :-) -Mads Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi all, > > Encouraged by the transition from phase1 to p

Re: X ate my console + some other glitches

2000-09-08 Thread Roland Mas
Roland Mas (2000-09-08 12:14:10 +0200) : > Other problem (bigger): once I find that I have to run XFree86, do > some stuff (mainly work :-), then I quit. Supposedly I should find my > good ole console again, huh? Well, I do, but the screen keeps black. > I can use the console if I know what t

Re: XFree86 -configure and bad mouse problem

2000-09-08 Thread Buddha Buck
> Buddha Buck wrote: > > > At some point in the past, my /dev/mouse got to be a link to a named > > pipe created by gpm (I think it was "gpmdata", but I could be wrong. > > > > I don't use gpm, so there was noting to listen to on that pipe. > > > > When I ran "XFree86 -configure", it switched

Re: [phase2] xdm

2000-09-08 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 02:19:51PM +0200, Boris Erdmann wrote: > After upgrading from 3.3.6 to 4.0.1c and starting /etc/init.d/xdm > X needs an eternity to show up with a login screen. Then entering > login and password only results in turnig back to login screen. > > running X via startx runs fin

X ate my console + some other glitches

2000-09-08 Thread Roland Mas
Hi all, Encouraged by the transition from phase1 to phase2, I decided to switch to Xfree86 4.0.1. Okay, so I twitched my sources.list file, and here goes. My hardware is this: video card is a Riva TNT2 with 32 Mb RAM, monitor is a Dell P991 (19", good stuff), PS/2 mouse, French 105-key ke

Re: [phase2] xdm

2000-09-08 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 02:19:51PM +0200, Boris Erdmann wrote: > After upgrading from 3.3.6 to 4.0.1c and starting /etc/init.d/xdm > X needs an eternity to show up with a login screen. Then entering > login and password only results in turnig back to login screen. > > running X via startx runs fi

Re: XFree86 -configure and bad mouse problem

2000-09-08 Thread Chanop Silpa-Anan
Once upon a time, I heard Boris Erdmann say > > Now I'm simply having trouble logging in with XDM... > > Probably You are - as me - missing the "sessreg" binary. > As long as no one here is willing :-) to reveal which packet that In 3.3.6-10 sesreg is in xbase-clients [EMAIL PROTECTED] dlocate s

Re: XFree86 -configure and bad mouse problem

2000-09-08 Thread Boris Erdmann
Buddha Buck wrote: At some point in the past, my /dev/mouse got to be a link to a named pipe created by gpm (I think it was "gpmdata", but I could be wrong. I don't use gpm, so there was noting to listen to on that pipe. When I ran "XFree86 -configure", it switched my monitor to a graphics m

Re: two displays?

2000-09-08 Thread Seth R Arnold
* Dariush Pietrzak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000907 03:46]: > Could please send me your experiences with that setup? Ok, I stole back my second monitor from a friend who was borrowing it. >From what I see so far, I like xinerama, but there are a few strange things going on; first, some of the windows t

Re: Build error on powerpc

2000-09-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 11:57:50PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Sorry, all I have is the makedepend line and the gcc line, and it seems to > have done fine... *sigh* I'll try to debug it tomorrow. Dan /\ /\ | Daniel Ja