Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 08:08:16PM +0100, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > Neither. It's that the X server and Glide2 would have to cooperate in > > order to let you do it. As of XFree4, X no longer knows how to talk to > > Glide2, but does know how to talk to Glide3. Evil, eh? > > Then why d

random sig 11 in 4.0.2

2001-03-24 Thread Seth Arnold
Greetings! :) [Sent to debian-x because I do not know the proper package against which to submit a bug report. Branden, please advise for general X bug reports.] This is the second sig11 I have seen lately. I have also seen cut'n'paste fail miserably for the last few days. (Well, the cut seems f

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Jon Pennington
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 05:15:09AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > I'm sorry, I forgot one important bit. > > >> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > My rough naming scheme is as follows: xlibmesa3-dri, xlibmesa-dri-dev, > > xlibosmesa3-dri, xlibosmesa-dri-dev, and xserver

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 11:14:20PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 09:00:51PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > > The 4 mesa packages are obvious, they will conflict, provide, and > > replace their counterparts[1]. > > > > Now, xserver-dri is a little less obvious, it depe

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 09:00:51PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > The 4 mesa packages are obvious, they will conflict, provide, and > replace their counterparts[1]. > > Now, xserver-dri is a little less obvious, it depends on > xserver-xfree86, but also needs to override 14 files[2] from it. I

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It might be possible to get X to search a different module path first, > but all examples of that turn out to be very ugly in the config file, > I'll keep poking. Ah, yes, that's actually cleaner. For the X server, you could change the sy

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 05:15:09AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > I'm sorry, I forgot one important bit. > > >> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > My rough naming scheme is as follows: xlibmesa3-dri, xlibmesa-dri-dev, > > xlibosmesa3-dri, xlibosmesa-dri-dev, and xserver-

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 05:10:47AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > >> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > My rough naming scheme is as follows: xlibmesa3-dri, xlibmesa-dri-dev, > > xlibosmesa3-dri, xlibosmesa-dri-dev, and xserver-dri. > > I would drop the xlibosmesa packa

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 08:08:16PM +0100, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > Neither. It's that the X server and Glide2 would have to cooperate in > > order to let you do it. As of XFree4, X no longer knows how to talk to > > Glide2, but does know how to talk to Glide3. Evil, eh? > > Then why

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
I'm sorry, I forgot one important bit. >> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My rough naming scheme is as follows: xlibmesa3-dri, xlibmesa-dri-dev, > xlibosmesa3-dri, xlibosmesa-dri-dev, and xserver-dri. You might want to provide xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My rough naming scheme is as follows: xlibmesa3-dri, xlibmesa-dri-dev, > xlibosmesa3-dri, xlibosmesa-dri-dev, and xserver-dri. I would drop the xlibosmesa packages. libOSMesa is a software only client side off-screen rendering library. >

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Zephaniah E\. Hull
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 11:14:20PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 09:00:51PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > > The 4 mesa packages are obvious, they will conflict, provide, and > > replace their counterparts[1]. > > > > Now, xserver-dri is a little less obvious, it dep

CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
I am currently about ready to start testing of .debs out of the DRI cvs tree. I have a rough naming scheme, and a list of exactly what files will to be overridden. My rough naming scheme is as follows: xlibmesa3-dri, xlibmesa-dri-dev, xlibosmesa3-dri, xlibosmesa-dri-dev, and xserver-dri. The 4 m

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 09:00:51PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > The 4 mesa packages are obvious, they will conflict, provide, and > replace their counterparts[1]. > > Now, xserver-dri is a little less obvious, it depends on > xserver-xfree86, but also needs to override 14 files[2] from it.

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It might be possible to get X to search a different module path first, > but all examples of that turn out to be very ugly in the config file, > I'll keep poking. Ah, yes, that's actually cleaner. For the X server, you could change the s

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Zephaniah E\. Hull
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 05:15:09AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > I'm sorry, I forgot one important bit. > > >> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > My rough naming scheme is as follows: xlibmesa3-dri, xlibmesa-dri-dev, > > xlibosmesa3-dri, xlibosmesa-dri-dev, and xserver

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Zephaniah E\. Hull
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 05:10:47AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > >> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > My rough naming scheme is as follows: xlibmesa3-dri, xlibmesa-dri-dev, > > xlibosmesa3-dri, xlibosmesa-dri-dev, and xserver-dri. > > I would drop the xlibosmesa pack

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
I'm sorry, I forgot one important bit. >> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My rough naming scheme is as follows: xlibmesa3-dri, xlibmesa-dri-dev, > xlibosmesa3-dri, xlibosmesa-dri-dev, and xserver-dri. You might want to provide xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linu

Re: CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My rough naming scheme is as follows: xlibmesa3-dri, xlibmesa-dri-dev, > xlibosmesa3-dri, xlibosmesa-dri-dev, and xserver-dri. I would drop the xlibosmesa packages. libOSMesa is a software only client side off-screen rendering library.

CVS DRI packages.

2001-03-24 Thread Zephaniah E\. Hull
I am currently about ready to start testing of .debs out of the DRI cvs tree. I have a rough naming scheme, and a list of exactly what files will to be overridden. My rough naming scheme is as follows: xlibmesa3-dri, xlibmesa-dri-dev, xlibosmesa3-dri, xlibosmesa-dri-dev, and xserver-dri. The 4

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:54:35PM -0600, Gordon Sadler wrote: > You mean to say a Voodoo2 graphics card that is sold/marketed/used as a > 3D only chipset, can be used under X4 as a '2D' card? With no other > VESA/VGA card available? > > If that's true that's great, I have a V2 sitting here doing

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Alexander Hvostov
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:54:35 -0600 Gordon Sadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 03:20:09PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:48:23PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > > > X4 no longer knows about glide2 > > > > That's not precisely true. xfree86

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Gordon Sadler
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 03:20:09PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:48:23PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > > X4 no longer knows about glide2 > > That's not precisely true. xfree86 Build-Depends on libglide2-dev for a > reason; to build the "glide" driver which gives

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 03:20:09PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:48:23PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > > X4 no longer knows about glide2 > > That's not precisely true. xfree86 Build-Depends on libglide2-dev for a > reason; to build the "glide" driver which gives

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:48:23PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > X4 no longer knows about glide2 That's not precisely true. xfree86 Build-Depends on libglide2-dev for a reason; to build the "glide" driver which gives you a *2D* X environment on Voodoo Graphics and Voodoo2 cards. > You can us

doogiebug resolved

2001-03-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 03:17:57AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Two people have reported runtime linking errors with the latest XFree86 4 > packages on i386. I cannot reproduce these. I am running my own latest > versions of the packages, am using bleeding-edge Debian unstable -- updated > to

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 08:08:16PM +0100, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > >> Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Neither. It's that the X server and Glide2 would have to cooperate in > > order to let you do it. As of XFree4, X no longer knows how to talk to > > Glide2, but does know

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Neither. It's that the X server and Glide2 would have to cooperate in > order to let you do it. As of XFree4, X no longer knows how to talk to > Glide2, but does know how to talk to Glide3. Evil, eh? Then why does it work for V1 and V2? What

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:54:35PM -0600, Gordon Sadler wrote: > You mean to say a Voodoo2 graphics card that is sold/marketed/used as a > 3D only chipset, can be used under X4 as a '2D' card? With no other > VESA/VGA card available? > > If that's true that's great, I have a V2 sitting here doing

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Alexander Hvostov
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 14:54:35 -0600 Gordon Sadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 03:20:09PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:48:23PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > > > X4 no longer knows about glide2 > > > > That's not precisely true. xfree86

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Gordon Sadler
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 03:20:09PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:48:23PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > > X4 no longer knows about glide2 > > That's not precisely true. xfree86 Build-Depends on libglide2-dev for a > reason; to build the "glide" driver which gives

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Zephaniah E\. Hull
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 03:20:09PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:48:23PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > > X4 no longer knows about glide2 > > That's not precisely true. xfree86 Build-Depends on libglide2-dev for a > reason; to build the "glide" driver which gives

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:48:23PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote: > X4 no longer knows about glide2 That's not precisely true. xfree86 Build-Depends on libglide2-dev for a reason; to build the "glide" driver which gives you a *2D* X environment on Voodoo Graphics and Voodoo2 cards. > You can u

doogiebug resolved

2001-03-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 03:17:57AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Two people have reported runtime linking errors with the latest XFree86 4 > packages on i386. I cannot reproduce these. I am running my own latest > versions of the packages, am using bleeding-edge Debian unstable -- updated > t

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Zephaniah E\. Hull
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 08:08:16PM +0100, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > >> Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Neither. It's that the X server and Glide2 would have to cooperate in > > order to let you do it. As of XFree4, X no longer knows how to talk to > > Glide2, but does know

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:14:26PM +0100, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > >> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You simply CAN NOT use mesag3-glide2 on a V3 with X4, it won't work. > > Uhm. Why? > > (if I'm going to be maintaining this, I'd like to know why it doesn't > work wit

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Neither. It's that the X server and Glide2 would have to cooperate in > order to let you do it. As of XFree4, X no longer knows how to talk to > Glide2, but does know how to talk to Glide3. Evil, eh? Then why does it work for V1 and V2? Wha

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 02:14:26PM +0100, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > >> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You simply CAN NOT use mesag3-glide2 on a V3 with X4, it won't work. > > Uhm. Why? > > (if I'm going to be maintaining this, I'd like to know why it doesn't > work wi

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> "Zephaniah E. Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You simply CAN NOT use mesag3-glide2 on a V3 with X4, it won't work. Uhm. Why? (if I'm going to be maintaining this, I'd like to know why it doesn't work with a specific setup, in particular, I'd like to know if this is a bug in mesa or

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > modes (which anyone who has seen me work in X knows I spend 30% of my time > in 640x480 or lower due to unreadably small, aliased fonts in things like > Netscape..) Just as a hint, Galeon let's you change the scaling of the fonts on a per page b

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Alexander Hvostov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Package: mesag3-glide2 (debian/main) > > > Maintainer: Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > 74471 Open GL xscreensavers cause X to hang with 3DFX cards. > > > > I need help with this bug, I c

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Alexander Hvostov
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 02:06:40 -0800 Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 03:15:25PM -0800, Alexander Hvostov wrote: > > I have this problem too. After a while, X freezes while running _any_ OpenGL > > application. This means blender, GL screen savers, GL xmms plugins,

Re: Help needed, TDFX [Re: Release-critical Bugreport for March 23, 2001]

2001-03-24 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 03:15:25PM -0800, Alexander Hvostov wrote: > I have this problem too. After a while, X freezes while running _any_ OpenGL > application. This means blender, GL screen savers, GL xmms plugins, etc. I'll assume you're running XFree4 since you didn't say otherwise. X freezes