Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-23 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 11:35:10PM -0500, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > Now, I can infer one of three things: > > 1. You had off-list contact with the X-Oz people before the license was > analyzed here on -legal, and did not communicate their non-standard > interpretation of that clause back to us for th

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-08 Thread Branden Robinson
[self-followup] On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 06:09:08PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > It is, however, worth noting that many subtle variations of the MIT/X11 > license exist. That the traditional MIT/X11 license is (by > general consensus, I daresay) DFSG-free, that any license derived from it > is

Re: Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 08:09:27PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >So, what happened is that we have autoconfig code available to us under > >the XFree86 1.0 (3-clause BSD) licence, which is DFSG-free; this is the > >same code that's currently in the X.Org tree, which appeared to form > >the cor

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 01:37:48PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 02:01:03AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > > /* > > * Copyright 2003 by David H. Dawes. > > * Copyright 2003 by X-Oz Technologies. > > * All rights reserved. > > * > > * Permission is hereby granted, free of

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-04 Thread Michael Poole
Robert Millan writes: > On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 02:01:03AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > > /* > > * Copyright 2003 by David H. Dawes. > > * Copyright 2003 by X-Oz Technologies. > > * All rights reserved. > > * > > * Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a > > *

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 02:01:03AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > /* > * Copyright 2003 by David H. Dawes. > * Copyright 2003 by X-Oz Technologies. > * All rights reserved. > * > * Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a > * copy of this software and associated d

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-03 Thread Florian Weimer
* Daniel Stone: > As I'm sure you all know, XFree86 post-4.4RC2 bears a non-DFSG-free > licence, which makes it impossible for Debian to include. The license appears to be DFSG-free, but incompatible with the GPL.

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-02 Thread Simon Law
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 02:01:03AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > As we're coming up to a release and thus need to close this issue > quickly, could -legal please comment on this issue for completeness? I > would really like comments from the peanut gallery, the cheap seats, the > people who aren't l

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-02 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 02:01:03AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > Hi guys, > We're trying to release X11R6.7.1 over at X.Org these days, but we've > hit a little roadbump. > > As I'm sure you all know, XFree86 post-4.4RC2 bears a non-DFSG-free > licence, which makes it impossible for Debian to inclu

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-02 Thread Michael Poole
Daniel Stone writes: > [3]: > /* > * Copyright 2003 by David H. Dawes. > * Copyright 2003 by X-Oz Technologies. > * All rights reserved. > * > * Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a > * copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-02 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 07:11:22PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > I believe even the X-Oz licence did experience the addition of this > problematic clause at some time, so this code could be a pre-change fork or > something ? Daniel, what is in the COPYRIGHT or such file ? Could you paste > that here

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 12:54:15PM -0400, Michael Poole wrote: > Daniel Stone writes: > > > [3]: > > /* > > * Copyright 2003 by David H. Dawes. > > * Copyright 2003 by X-Oz Technologies. > > * All rights reserved. > > * > > * Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaini

Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-02 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 05:50:08PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, on the release call today, it was alleged that the code was > > actually DFSG-free, and that the so-called 'X-Oz licence' bore no legal > > problems whatsoever, and would be fine

Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?

2004-08-02 Thread Daniel Stone
[I am not on -legal; though I will read the archives, please CC.] Hi guys, We're trying to release X11R6.7.1 over at X.Org these days, but we've hit a little roadbump. As I'm sure you all know, XFree86 post-4.4RC2 bears a non-DFSG-free licence, which makes it impossible for Debian to include. X.O