I realize that I have been
slow in posting on thislist and in my own defense we have been very
busy,adding new staff to our business, visiting and talking to customers,
building the business infrstructureand attempting to learn everything we
could about our customers needs for both the
I know the list has been flooded, but I can not get any of these tests
working, anyone have any advice?
Sincerely,
Grant Griffith
EI8HT LEGS Enhanced Web Management
A Division of ETC
http://www.getafreewebsite.com
877-483-3393
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I'm all for your GUI because I know it will make your business more
successful even though it will probably be of no use to me at this
point. I certainly could have used it in the beginning and I would
have probably bought Declude earlier than I did. I'll bet
that Dave
might even
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Declude is not a simple thing to implement and configure.
Those of us running it are more than capable of adding a line to our config
files and deciding how to weight it/configure it/otherwise implement it. We
don't NEED a "click OK to install" GUI that does something to our
I know the list has been flooded, but I can not get any of these tests
working, anyone have any advice?
What lines do you have in your global.cfg that begin with SPF?
We are looking into an issue where the MTLDB may not be returning positive
responses, and should have more information later
The entries are below. I am thinking they are correct, but I am not seeing
anything in my logs that indicate this is working at all.
SPFPASS passx x -10 0
SPFFAIL failx x 5 0
I did the install of MTLDB also and have not
You are missing a column:
SPFPASS spf passx 0 0
SPFUNKNOWN spf unknown x 0 0
SPFFAIL spf failx 50 0
Personally, I don't recommend crediting any points for an SPF pass result. Too
Shouldn't it be CPHZ?
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From:
Barry @ CHPZ
To: Declude. JunkMail
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 4:31 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Introduction
Preliminary Survey Results
I realize that I have
been slow in posting on thislist and in my
Example, on this new test. (Which I have not implemented yet.) Instead of
registering for each server I work on, I could just check the database or
file or webpage or whatever to see if there is a valid SA for it, and if
so
just add the line to their configuration files. If not, advise them
I was not even aware that there was another support channel!! Please
tell us what it is! I have always posted my Q's here and received my
support responses here.
I too think that the new management should be more involved in this
list. If they were in these discussions, we would see them as
Scott Fisher wrote:
Personally, I don't recommend crediting any points for an SPF pass result. Too many spammers can set up SPF records for their system (and they do. Yesterday 58% of the SPF Pass results were spam).
That pretty much reflects my results here; Right now SPF pass is, more
often
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Thank you,
Barry.
In addition to a
community support channel, we've become accustomed to using this mailing list as
acommunications channel to and from Computerized Horizons. You may
miss out on the pulse of your customer base if are not a
subscriber.
I'm sure we all
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I agree withSharyn.
Harlan YoungI Like It Like That, Inc.Pequot
Lakes, MN 56472218-568-8332800-261-2116http://clarenproject.com/
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From:
Sharyn
Schmidt
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 9:10 AM
Subject: RE:
Ok, couldn't resist my $.02
M sense, but I think they are putting the cart before the horse. Wouldn't
M it be much better to work on creating a new format for the config files
DREAMING
Like an XML based config file that incorporated Junkmail, Virus and
Hijack configurations as well as per user
Any ISP's recommend a good POP provider? Were thinking of switching from
running our own equipment and do not which ones are reliable.
If you could email me off list that would be great.
Thank you,
Danny
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Take a look at http://www.megapop.net/...very reliable.
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Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 12:40 PM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Way OT ISP Question
Any ISP's recommend a good POP
Sharyn (and others that despise GUI's and learning new things at this
stage in the game),
I think that we must all recognize that the majority of Declude's
market lies with those that aren't nearly as experienced with this
stuff as we are, and they need a GUI in order to tap deeper into that
Anyone out there know of a good managed firewall solution?
Please contact me directly.
Many thanks in advance,
Jose Gosende
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Hi,
I
don't need the GUI (anymore)- but I fully appreciate the need for
one.
However, I wonder whether it is wise to invest into a GUI at THIS
stage. The Declude product has been very quick to grow in features,
waybeyond what Scott could have originally imagined when he
Barry @ CHPZ wrote:
I realize that I have been slow in posting on this list and in my own
defense we have been very busy, adding new staff to our business,
visiting and talking to customers, building the business
infrstructure and attempting to learn everything we could about our
customers
Scott already indicated that he planed on having a system where the
GUI was just simply an overlay to the config files and not
necessarily required...
I agree that there's nothing wrong with a configuration GUI.
There is, however, something VERY wrong with a
Hi,
Something getting lost here in the discussion of the installation GUI is the request
from time-to-time for an end-user GUI.
I feel the biggest drawback to our clients (we are hosting company) using our spam
blocking is the total lack of any way for them to customize.
Believe it or not,
Hi,
I vote NO for XML.
I'm sorry, but XML is much more like a registry setting or a binary configuration file
-- Great for programmatic manipulation, but terrible for manual/interactive use.
A text file in notepad is easy to change and edit interactively (even remotely on
low-bandwidth
Something getting lost here in the discussion of the installation GUI is
the request from time-to-time for an end-user GUI.
This is something that we would love to do -- and would have been done
*years* ago if Ipswitch allowed third-party access to web messaging (with
about 20 lines of code,
Having an easy way for users to change their spam settings - especially
managing
their own whitelists/blacklists would allow them to turn up the blocking
to higher
weighting level with less false positives would be very desirable - much
more so than
a cosmetic GUI for admin installations..
I like the XML idea. It is certainly editable by Notepad across a slow
connection because an XML file is a plain text file (with specific chars
used for specific purposes). But it would give the people that want
programmatic control over the file a great capability. Then we can
choose our
Declude can always have an option to edit a file by hand, or just display
each current value, test, etc and let changes be fine tuned there and have
it write the config file itself.
I also think it would be nice for it to either have a global include file
for the default junkmail file (for when
Yes, I agree with that. Declude as a standalone gateway product?
I would love to see it.
Kevin Bilbee
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bud Durland
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 11:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
People on this list hopefully will appriciate the irony of the following:
G
07/12/2004 13:42 MTLDB:1 nIPNOTINMX:-3 nNOLEGITCONTENT:-5 . Total weight
= -7.
07/12/2004 13:42 Using [incoming] CFG file
d:\IMail\Declude\$default$.junkmail.
07/12/2004 13:42 Msg failed MTLDB (This E-mail came from
XML will definitly slow down the loading of Declude and I know scott will
not do that. XML will be a greate feature for the gateway version though.
Hint, Hint.
Rember that declude loads and parses the config files for every email and
unless declude could keep the parsed XML files in memory and
I guess I wasn't clear enough -- Maybe I should be blunt:
Editing XML files in notepad sucks! I should be able to quickly edit configuration
files in notepad like we can do today with .txt or .ini files.
Sure a simple XML file is ok, but try, for example, editing the Microsoft IIS metabase
Scott,
Thanks for the technical insight - yes, I understand the challenges and remember this
from your earlier feedback.
However, with the new suits in charge, I though it was worth mentioning again for
two reasons:
1. If it was easy, we would all do it ourselves :-)
2. With a bigger
Editing XML files in notepad sucks! I should be able to quickly edit
configuration files
in notepad like we can do today with .txt or .ini files.
XML is not designed to be edited with notepad. In fact, as simple mistake
could create a major problem.
This is from MS itself.
John Tolmachoff
I have to disagree with this.
XML, when done properly, can be good both for people and for machines.
I've seen it done this way, and worked with this kind of configuration
for quite a while. It can be done well, and it can be done badly.
When done well, a few simple conventions can make the XML
On Monday, July 12, 2004, 3:50:39 PM, R. wrote:
Something getting lost here in the discussion of the installation GUI is
the request from time-to-time for an end-user GUI.
RSP This is something that we would love to do -- and would have been done
RSP *years* ago if Ipswitch allowed third-party
On Monday, July 12, 2004, 4:54:31 PM, Kevin wrote:
KB XML will definitly slow down the loading of Declude and I know scott will
KB not do that. XML will be a greate feature for the gateway version though.
KB Hint, Hint.
I respectfully submit that this is not necessarily true. There is no
clear
On Monday, July 12, 2004, 4:59:27 PM, decjunkmail wrote:
d I guess I wasn't clear enough -- Maybe I should be blunt:
d Editing XML files in notepad sucks! I should be able to
d quickly edit configuration files in notepad like we can do today
d with .txt or .ini files.
d Sure a simple XML file
Well we differ here on this point. XML is much more verbose and will explode
the size of the config files probably 1000 fold
Here is a sample
Now
SPFFAIL spf failx 14 0
After XML - Possible Sample
Test name=SPFFAIL
Typespf/TestType
Actionfail/TestAction
The XML file has one more advantage: A GUI could be created by Declude
(which seems to be in our future anyway) that could easily configure
Declude in a very structured way. This would simplify Declude
configuration immensely! It could easily be done with a group policy
looking editor. That
An error checker would be handy.
Especially for filters. I think I've found just about every which was to mis-spell
endswith and startswith.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/12 7:33p
The XML file has one more advantage: A GUI could be created by Declude
(which seems to be in our future anyway) that
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