[Declude.JunkMail] Incomplete headers - theory

2006-01-24 Thread Karen Mitchell
I have been having problems with incomplete or broken headers in lots of spam messages. Sometimes I will see the missing headers in the body of the message, sometimes not. See below for example. The subject when the message arrived in the inbox was: Subject: EXPLICIT: Nice online dating booty

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy

2006-01-24 Thread Bill Landry
Well, now that you put it that way, probably not... ;-) Bill - Original Message - From: "John T (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:36 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy Does it make a difference who is supplying the bed and who is su

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Matt
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox Corby, Because of MS SMTP handling the E-mail before it reaches my IMail/Declude system, Declude always inserts it's headers in the proper block, however MS SMTP can cause some of the pre-Declude headers (original) to appear in either the top of the body o

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy

2006-01-24 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Does it make a difference who is supplying the bed and who is supplying the bedding? John T eServices For You > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:29 PM > To: Declude.Junk

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox Ok, thanks very much.  I'll see if they'll get me the latest 2.x version to see if that works.   Can you clarify somethingare you saying that you're receiving mail from the same spammer that's causing my problem, but your system is handling it correc

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Matt
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox Corby, I assumed that you weren't using an MS gateway, I was just letting you know that what happened to these headers was going to be different on my system. I have tons of spam on my system generated by this spamware and it's all showing the same behavi

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy

2006-01-24 Thread Bill Landry
I think you've got it backwards, SBC acquired AT&T but is keeping the AT&T name. Bill - Original Message - From: "John T (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:23 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy And since AT&T now owns SBC, aren't we get

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox Hi Matt,   I'm not using any MS gateway on this.  The mail comes into Imail/declude and uses Imail as the email server.   I opened the message with notepad and didn't locate any misplaced headers.  I would like to try updating to 2.0.6 as you suggest, b

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Matt
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox Corby, I also received a bunch of these, and one copy that I came up with in a hold box showed that the headers were in fact broken.  My MS SMTP gateway shows the From, Bcc, and locally inserted MS SMTP headers at the very bottom of this message.  That's h

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox Well I'm somewhat more confused as I don't really know what "bad folding" means.  However, I don't see any of the X-headers in the message body. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: Tuesday, January 24, 20

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Matt
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox Nick, FYI, by gatewaying through MS SMTP/ORF, that actually normalizes the headers before it gets to Declude and therefor this behavior is not seen.  You will however see some of the original headers  left in the body on some messages, but not the ones from

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy

2006-01-24 Thread John T \(Lists\)
And since AT&T now owns SBC, aren't we getting back to Ma Bell? John T eServices For You > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 3:56 PM > To: JunkMail Declude > Subject: [Dec

[Declude.JunkMail] Earthlink/prodigy

2006-01-24 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Is there a relationship here. I am getting legit email from this combo and would like to know. It looks to me like prodigy is now owned by SBC. Kevin Bilbee --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Robert Grosshandler
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox Current version does not fix this "folding" problem.  Declude is testing a newer version that may fix the problem, but no joy yet.    Matt wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:34 PM

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Nick Hayer
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox Agid, Corby wrote: Actually, I'm still running 2.0.5.   I suppose that I should probably upgrade, eh?  I haven't. I'm on 2.16       Other than this particular bugger, it's worked well for me. it is odd to me that a particular email f

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Matt
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox Andrew probably nailed this.  In at least some versions of Declude, the headers that it inserts could land in the body of the message due to bad folding techniques that the spammer uses (sometimes also legitimate mailers will produce this flaw).  Your clien

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox Actually, I'm still running 2.0.5.   I suppose that I should probably upgrade, eh?      I don't actually delete mail at any score.  I use the header information in my email client to sort the incoming messages.    Other than this particular bugger, it's w

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox Corby, to help you rule out "header corruption" I checked my own logs, and found that I received (and held) three copies of the same spam message today.   Inspecting each of those with notepad showed that my X- headers are being added, therefore "header c

[Declude.JunkMail] Hyperthreading research

2006-01-24 Thread Matt
For those that are interested in the effect of multi-CPU's and hyperthreading has with an IMail/Declude setup, here's some additional research. I previously tested my dual Xeon setup with both hyperthreading enabled and disabled, and found that the utilization jumped an astonishing ~100% when

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Nick Hayer
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox Odd - just because its always the same email. What number do you delete on? Although the logs will balloon in size running the Declude in DEBUG may shed some light. I presume this is Declude 3x ver? -Nick Agid, Corby wrote: Hello, I'm ha

[Declude.JunkMail] Logged spam getting to mailbox

2006-01-24 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: Logged spam getting to mailbox Hello, I'm having trouble with a particular spam message getting to my mailbox each day.   The declude log file shows the scanning and scoring.  However, the message that lands in the mailbox shows no sign of being scanned….ie there are no X-RBL headers

Re: AW: [Declude.JunkMail] Spool Directory Backed Up

2006-01-24 Thread A. Clausen
Guhl, Markus (LDS) wrote: hi, are those files backing up regular incomming mails or are they *.fwd and *.gse files? what happens when you put a mail (d*.smd and q*.smd) into spool "by hand" (something like a false positiv)? which version of imail do you use? I've tried manipulating

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Left over D*.SM$ files in proc\work

2006-01-24 Thread Schmeits, Roger
I’d turn on verbose logging in imail and declude. In the Declude log file something did not go quite right at 17:14:34:513. It looks like Imail is functioning ok but declude miss handled the email\attachment in question.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beha

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Server Watching.

2006-01-24 Thread Chris Fitch
I actually reached for an older linux distro called sentinix. Comes kind of out of the box with Snort/ACD and Nagios/Nagios Admin. A little dated but as it sits behind a very secure firewall it is extremely effective and fairly painless and has a cost of $0. Chris -Original Message- Fr