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From: Brian Milburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 12:05 PM
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Subject: Re: Alligate Information Request
Hi,
Thanks for your interest in Alligate for IMail.
We have decided we are no longer going to offer an
This is correct. We stopped offering the IMail specific (non Declude) version
of Alligate a couple of months ago. We have also suspended free trials of the
Declude add-in until we can bring it up to date so that the same detection
methods are used by both the Declude version and our gateway
I just signed up for the 30-day trial for Alligate (as a Declude
add-in). I'm stopping more spam but the volume is so great that I need
some outside help. Imail's anti-spam system is so full of holes I've
had to emasculate the thing. What was once a 25% effective rate (i.e.
whacks 25% of the
Is anyone using Alligate http://www.alligate.com ?
I'm using message sniffer and was looking at adding alligate also.
I'd appreciate any feedback..
Mark
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:09 AM
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Is anyone using Alligate http://www.alligate.com ?
I'm using message sniffer and was looking at adding alligate also.
I'd appreciate any
We use both, and like the combination.
Is anyone using Alligate http://www.alligate.com ?
I'm using message sniffer and was looking at adding alligate also.
I'd appreciate any feedback..
Mark
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Im already using Message Sniffer with Declude. What would Alligate do that Message
Sniffer doesn't?
Thanks,
Bill Newberg
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, August 28, 2003 8:28 AM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate
Im already using Message Sniffer with Declude. What would Alligate do
that
Message Sniffer doesn't?
Thanks,
Bill Newberg
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Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:28 AM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate
Im already using Message Sniffer with Declude. What would
Alligate do
that
Message Sniffer doesn't?
Thanks,
Bill Newberg
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Newberg
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:39 AM
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Subject: FW: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate
John,
I understand you are very pleased with the product. Do you use
MessageSniffer as well? If so, why?
Thanks,
Bill
I don't want to knock Alligate, it has some nice functionality,
especially when used without Declude (auto whitelisting and digest
notification), and it does what it says, but it has a relatively high
false positive rate in the default configuration and therefore it can't
be scored higher
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Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions?
John,
I just joined the list today, but I found your configuration file from
back in June and it was very helpful in understanding how to fine tune
Alligate. I'm going to study it's logs more closely
Message sniffer is not so bad as I tested it but have a big problem
with News letter it has a bif False positive rate with them.
On the home page for MessageSniffer you'll find a Help (QA) section which
is worth your time to read if it's worth your time to implement.
Submit false positives to:
part de
|Matthew Bramble Envoyé : jeudi 21 août 2003 03:32 À :
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|Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions?
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|John,
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|I just joined the list today, but I found your configuration file from
|back in June and it was very helpful in understanding
Hi,
Is Alligate so good ? What about false positive ?
Thanks
Mehdi Blagui
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Do you
John,
We have it as a Declude only test
Keith
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From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 8/20/2003 1:05 AM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate
I've been a Declude Virus and JunkMail customer for about a year and a
half now. At first the spam blocking was just something that only a few
of my ~250 users (hosting) found beneficial, but in the last 6 months I
have had to continually push the limits with the tests in order to keep
it
We use both. Between them, plus the Declude tests, our false positive level
is very, very low.
Our scoring is such that if an e-mail triggers both Sniffer and Alligate, we
treat as spam. If it triggers both, and has other characteristics of spam,
its score is high enough that it gets deleted
Rob,
If you don't mind sharing, what config settings do you use for
Alligate..
Keith
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From: Robert Grosshandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 5:54 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer
www.eservicesforyou.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:20 PM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Alligate vs. Message Sniffer...opinions?
I've been a Declude
Glad to. By the way, we also use Autowhite (I hate the thought of missing
any mail). Also, our Declude config is near-stock, we hold on 20, delete on
30.
#Alligate for IMail CONFIGURATION FILE (MINIMUM CONFIGURATION)
#PLEASE SEE THE CONFIGURATION INSTRUCTIONS FOR MORE OPTIONS
#GENERAL NOTES
#
I'd also like to share my configuration. We have about 50 E-mail
domains with about 250 users, with many addresses listed in who-is
records and on Web sites, along with nobody alias redirection for all
domains. This results in a lot of garbage coming our way. We are
definitely capturing
John,
I just joined the list today, but I found your configuration file from
back in June and it was very helpful in understanding how to fine tune
Alligate. I'm going to study it's logs more closely before I start that
phase though, looking for false positives. I've turned that test down
At 10:31 PM 8/20/2003 -0400, you wrote:
snip
I don't want to knock Alligate, it has some nice functionality, especially
when used without Declude (auto whitelisting and digest notification), and
it does what it says, but it has a relatively high false positive rate in
the default
Hi Matt, I guess I'll chime in here...
On 08/20/03 10:31pm you wrote...
I just joined the list today, but I found your configuration file from
back in June and it was very helpful in understanding how to fine tune
Alligate. I'm going to study it's logs more closely before I start that
phase
Does anyone have any configs they are willing to share that they are using in
production for Alligate with Declude? Thanks for the aid.
Keith
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Keith
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