RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-06 Thread R. Scott Perry
Do the positive weight tests (black tests) first in highest to lowest weight order. I'll just comment here before this goes too far. It is very unlikely that we will rearrange the order that the tests are run it, as many of them must be run at a certain point, and there are several cases where

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-06 Thread Madscientist
TED] On Behalf Of John >Tolmachoff (Lists) >Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 2:02 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility. > > >> Forgive the intrusion (I just troll here, don't actually have JM >> ), but thi

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-05 Thread Rob Salmond
Charles: >They need to not be greedy matches or better yet support a very small set of rules, an overly simplified >engine could allow for word boundries and whitespace with optional letters and make word and phrase >filters much more powerful. I agree, regular expressions are somewhat more powerf

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-05 Thread Charles Frolick
ob Salmond Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 8:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility. Interesting point, I hadn't considered tests that add a negative weight. (Although the default config only comes with two negatives as far as I know an

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-05 Thread Jools Chesters
I guess you would do checks on the negative weights first and then the positive and at any point a test goes above the threshold you would stop. Unless by adding all the positive tests together it would still be below threshold whereas you wouldn't need to do any positive tests (unlikely though).

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-04 Thread Rob Salmond
Interesting point, I hadn't considered tests that add a negative weight. (Although the default config only comes with two negatives as far as I know and I haven't had need to add others). However I think it would be safe to make some assumptions in the test process that could cut CPU time and still

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-04 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
> Forgive the intrusion (I just troll here, don't actually have JM ), > but this idea seems flawed. If you quit testing once a certain weight > has been reached, wouldn't you cut off further testing that might reduce > that weight? In a system where a score can go up and down depending on > the t

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-04 Thread Kurt Jung
- Original Message - From: "Rob Salmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > probably cut down a lot of CPU overhead by optimizing in both directions, > quitting the spam test process as soon as a message has enough weight to > fail and only running certain tests after others have failed. (Or if others

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-04 Thread Markus Gufler
implement this with the windows performance monitor? Markus > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Salmond > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 10:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to a

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-04 Thread Rob Salmond
>This may be overly obvious, but any CPU load could be minimized if RegEx tests were only conducted >on email that flunks other preliminary tests. Don't know if SpamChk works that way or not. I would only do that if there were CPU usage problems in to begin with. In some cases a particular regexp

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-04 Thread Keith Purtell
moment it's not clear how much this will influence the CPU > utilization. > > Markus > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Salmond > > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 4:09 PM > > To: [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-04 Thread Markus Gufler
TED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Salmond > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 4:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility. > > > In an earlier email I mentioned the idea of a scripting > language for

[Declude.JunkMail] Easy way to add power and flexibility.

2003-06-04 Thread Rob Salmond
In an earlier email I mentioned the idea of a scripting language for building mail filters. It was brought to my attention that this is outside the scope of a junkmail product which is of course quite true. Howerver something that would be very useful in a junkmail filter would be a regular expre