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This is exactly why I think we should have a some sort of global internet
council for setting standards, rather than all of us little guys having
to react, after the fact, whenever a large player makes a c
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> SPAM from AOL accounts - hm, I have to admit that I only see an
> (automatically selected) cross-section of spam messages with header
(wh
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> Good point, they should be more accessible. That would be my biggest
> complaint with most black-lists.
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Darin wrote:
I think if the IETF or some other body can gain enough power to enforce
standards that are the consensus of the majority (probably best based
Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:46 AM
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Hi Pete,
I do agree with you on all of the problems you present in regards to a
governing body that can enforce it's will. However, I think we're already
there to some degre
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Holt
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>AOL is implementing the very same "checks" that we are using in
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This is true.
>So what's the whining a
From: Pete
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This is a common perception... and one that I share to some extent. None
the less, it's not an easy problem. The network runs on consensus - an
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> Exactly, Chuck.
>
> AOL is impl
complex realities of economics were crystallized and made
transparent - I love when that happens. Let's not all "go for the
blonde".
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Isn't the IETF supposed to be this body?_MAt 09:14 PM
12/16/2003, you wrote:
I would agree with this type of governing body. One that sets
standards like RDNS entries and what they mean. <
pessimistic rant>But it is still
f Chuck Schick
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I will disagree. I do not believe there is any comparison between MS EULA
and AOL mail policies. I do not see AOL's actions as the
"...internet-nazi-pol
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> Todd,
>
> I suspect no one has an issue with what AOL is doing is because we are
so
> close to the situation (i.e
. AOL will not deliver e-mail that contains a hex-encoded Universal Resource
Locator (URL). (Ex: http://%6d%6e%3f
Contains it where, in the body?
John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You
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I will disagree. I do not believe there is any comparison between MS EULA and AOL
mail policies. I do not see AOL's actions as the "...internet-nazi-police
tactics..." as you claim. I do not see where AOL is gaining any competitive
advantage, they are simply trying to protect their network a
Todd,
I suspect no one has an issue with what AOL is doing is because we are so
close to the situation (i.e. we are all trying to block spam).
Darrell
Todd Holt writes:
I know this will stir a few people the wrong way, but.
If so many people are upset that MS is being monopolistic by u
Holt
Xidix Technologies, Inc
Las Vegas, NV USA
www.xidix.com
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Totally agree. I know we'll always be at
their mercy, but at least we would have some warning
then...
Darin.
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This is exactly why I think we should have
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OK I
have to reply to this one.
Nice
comparrison.
Kevin
Bilbee
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send mail to AOL...it encourages customers to move to the large
players to avoid not having mail delivered to their users.
Darin.
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I know this will stir a few people the
wrong way, but…
If so many people are upset that MS is
being monopolistic by using their EULA to prevent software from operating, then
why don’t those same people get upset at AOL for the internet-nazi-police tactics used to prevent
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