RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL on SPAMCOP

2004-01-22 Thread Paul Fuhrmeister
SpamCop blocked the ActiveServerPages list at 15seconds.com (which is not a source of spam): List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCOP: Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml? The problem with SpamCop is, it's only as reliable as it's users. It would appear that

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL on SPAMCOP

2004-01-16 Thread Matt
But what happens when it's not listed in SpamCop and some zombie sends out spam through it? It fixes one problem, but creates another. I currently see more spam coming from ISP mail servers than I see false positives, but of course that's just my setup. Having SpamCop FP on such a mail

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL on SPAMCOP

2004-01-16 Thread Andy Schmidt
old domain name with an IP will not get credit, because SPF will not match. Best Regards Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 12:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL on SPAMCOP

2004-01-16 Thread Matt
Andy Schmidt wrote: Also, the "zombie" will only benefit from SPF, if they take the time and are able to figure out which domain's SPF TXT record happens to cover that particular zombie IP. Just using any old domain name with an IP will not get credit, because SPF will not match.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL on SPAMCOP

2004-01-16 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message SpamCop has a very serious and obvious problem, and I think it might be the result of a bug or something because clearly this wasn't always the case. Imperfect as they may be, SpamCop could fix this problem and greatly improve on their present reliability. Sorry for

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL on SPAMCOP

2004-01-16 Thread Matt
How? I'm not a SpamCop member nor am I aware of any method to alert them to such problems. Also, IronPort took over SpamCop, and although Julian is still involved, it's possible that someone else is calling the shots??? Maybe IronPort broke this accidentally? If someone wants to send me an

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL on SPAMCOP

2004-01-16 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Message Matt, Option 1: http://www.spamcop.net/forum.shtml which provides a web page to the various forums and how to get to them (web/nntp) and also a one-shot web forum post form for those not interested in joining a forum. If you're going to participate, read the common sense

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL on SPAMCOP

2004-01-16 Thread Matt
. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL on SPAMCOP How? I'm not a SpamCop member nor am I aware of any method to alert them