Re: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

2009-06-04 Thread John T
I really think these type of comments, while they may be perfectly valid, are better done off line as they are outside of the scope and purpose of this list.John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: "Patrick Childers" Sent 6/4/2009 10:36:30 AM To: declude.virus@declude.com Subjec

RE: [Declude.Virus] CommTouch

2009-06-04 Thread Andy Schmidt
>> every year I pay a % of the Service Agreement to Commtouch << Well, then the obvious answer is - do NOT absorb third party cost for whatever percentage of your customer base, if that's part of the puzzle where the annual Declude fees currently are going. Two things will happen, either yo

RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

2009-06-04 Thread Patrick Childers
I run a business and I work for a business. Thank you. Maybe you should work for one... ~P _ From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:17 PM To: declude.virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus i

RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

2009-06-04 Thread David Barker
>. but I can spend almost whatever I need to to protect my network. There are those of us who run businesses and then there are those who work for them. Either way your feedback is appreciated ;) David From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Childers

RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

2009-06-04 Thread Patrick Childers
Comments are in-line. _ From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:03 AM To: declude.virus@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year? Sorry no marketing department to gi

RE: [Declude.Virus] CommTouch, External Scanners, Marketplace

2009-06-04 Thread David Barker
>> In addition we have ZEROHOUR as a option for Perpetual license customers as an additional virus scanners providing ZEROHOUR protection and additional spam definitions. For the amount of money that this is being offered for it is a wise investment. << No Andy WE are paying for it not YOU. He

RE: [Declude.Virus] CommTouch, External Scanners, Marketplace

2009-06-04 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave, Could you please elaborate on that: >> In addition we have ZEROHOUR as a option for Perpetual license customers as an additional virus scanners providing ZEROHOUR protection and additional spam definitions. For the amount of money that this is being offered for it is a wise invest

RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

2009-06-04 Thread David Barker
Sorry no marketing department to give you the warm and fuzzy spin, just me. Couple of suggestions. Declude has the ability to run upto 5 additional cmd line scanners of your choice, we provide AVG as a courtesy to our customers as in the past Declude did not have any internal virus scanner, you

RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

2009-06-04 Thread David Barker
Ok final comments on this. 1. For those who took my example of the decisions making process and criticized it citing pre-release time of IMail 11 etc etc. If you think I only have a choice between 2 options - where to dedicate my resources - you missed the point. 2. I fully agree with being proa

RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

2009-06-04 Thread Patrick Childers
How much are we willing to pay? It doesn't matter if it costs $5 or $5000 if the product doesn't work. Especially when you, the developer, doesn't notice the problem for a month and a half - especially when the problem has been reported by end users. Do you not run your own product? Maybe you d

RE: [Declude.Virus] Internal Scanner missing most viruses

2009-06-04 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Serge: http://www.invariantsystems.com/dlanalyzer/ EXTREMELY helpful in assessing the performance of certain spam tests, seeing which users are being targeted by viruses, which IP addresses are the top spammers and which ones are virus sources. And, you can generate per person or per