Re: [DUG] Web development - PHP or not PHP?

2011-06-06 Thread Stefan Mueller
, Stefan From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Neven MacEwan Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:22 PM To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] Web development - PHP or not PHP? Rohit I don't subscribe to your vie

Re: [DUG] Web development - PHP or not PHP?

2011-06-05 Thread Neven MacEwan
Rohit I don't subscribe to your view re "rubbish programmers", slowness (or a certain response speed) may be their target when your revenue is advertising :-) Here is one thing they have done with PHP, http://developers.facebook.com/blog/post/358/ Mind you I dont use FB Neven Neven, are

Re: [DUG] Web development - PHP or not PHP?

2011-06-05 Thread Rohit Gupta
Neven, are you implying that facebook uses some sort of compiled language. As far as I know it uses php. Its slowness stems from them using rubbish programmers. Every time they make a change - their choices/decisions makes things even slower. On 5/06/2011 10:37 p.m., Neven MacEwan wrote

Re: [DUG] Web development - PHP or not PHP?

2011-06-05 Thread Rohit Gupta
John, I wouldnt go for Delphi 4 php - the vcl is a pointless exercise. Debugging (when it works - it has a mind of its own) works really well - all the delphi debugging facilities. If you want to go for Delphi for PHP, I would wait for the next version. Or, my son says that eclipse should

Re: [DUG] Web development - PHP or not PHP?

2011-06-05 Thread Neven MacEwan
John Debugging PHP poor? Breakpoints, hover-over variable values, step into what more do you need? I agree with the speed thing though, No need for compiled code until you get to facebook size. I always thought the concept of a PHP VCL a little strange, The statelessness of webservers and t

Re: [DUG] Web development - PHP or not PHP?

2011-06-05 Thread John C
I use PHP already for many years and I like as it integrates nicely and easily with HTML, CSS and JavaScript. And as Rohit explained, no matter what language you use, for more advanced application you got to learn HTML, CSS and JavaScript any way! Speed might be an issue for some applications (?)