Re: git repository

2011-12-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi john, i know. you are listed as an initial committer - that means: you will get an apache-id, you will be part of the incubator group (- you will get commit btw. push rights) and you will be a ppmc member. - i don't see an issue. regards, gerhard 2011/12/23 John D. Ament

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-27] CodiConfig

2011-12-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+1 for a new name. (initially it was a bit more. we reduced the functionality later on.) we could call it e.g. ModuleConfig regards, gerhard 2011/12/23 Jason Porter lightguard...@gmail.com +1 Needs a better name though :P On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 04:03, Christian Kaltepoth

[jira] [Commented] (DELTASPIKE-8) review and discuss @Veto

2011-12-23 Thread Jason Porter (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-8?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13175335#comment-13175335 ] Jason Porter commented on DELTASPIKE-8: --- Looks like everyone is in agreement for

[jira] [Resolved] (DELTASPIKE-9) review and discuss @Requires

2011-12-23 Thread Jason Porter (Resolved) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-9?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Jason Porter resolved DELTASPIKE-9. --- Resolution: Later This feature was tabled for later. review and discuss

[DISCUSS] (DELTASPIKE-15) @DefaultBean

2011-12-23 Thread Jason Porter
fyi: please check [1] before you answer. [2] is the implementation used in Solder. The use case for it really seems more like @Typed, but in practice it's being used to go around BDA issues in containers. the basic concept: Provides a bean with a type and qualifiers that may be different than

[jira] [Commented] (DELTASPIKE-20) move util methods to CdiUtils

2011-12-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-20?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13175348#comment-13175348 ] Gerhard Petracek commented on DELTASPIKE-20: if you provide a name,

[DISCUSS] (DELTASPIKE-16) review and discuss builders (metadata implementations)

2011-12-23 Thread Jason Porter
fyi: please check [1] before you answer. [2] contains documentation for the AnnotationBuilder and [2a] contains the code for the BeanBuilders. the basic concept: Builder classes for creating beans based on an AnnotatedType, and modifying the metadata of that AnnotatedType, also in the case of

Re: basic decisions: test setup

2011-12-23 Thread Mark Struberg
I like the annotation filter! (Don't yet understand why isn't that a Qualifier but a Stereotype, but that's minor stuff) LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Dan Allen dan.j.al...@gmail.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 2:10 AM

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-28] ServiceProvider

2011-12-23 Thread Mark Struberg
We could try to use retro-translate to produce java5 compatible artifacts later? LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Jason Porter lightguard...@gmail.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 4:45 AM Subject: Re: [DISCUSS]

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-28] ServiceProvider

2011-12-23 Thread Jason Porter
If we wanted to try it later that's fine. On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 02:41, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote: We could try to use retro-translate to produce java5 compatible artifacts later? LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Jason Porter lightguard...@gmail.com To:

[jira] [Commented] (DELTASPIKE-33) deltaspike website

2011-12-23 Thread Jason Porter (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-33?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13175363#comment-13175363 ] Jason Porter commented on DELTASPIKE-33: Awestruct (http://awestruct.org) was

Re: [DISCUSS] (DELTASPIKE-15) @DefaultBean

2011-12-23 Thread Christian Kaltepoth
+1 2011/12/23 Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com: +1 if we keep the impl in impl-bda [1] regards, gerhard [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DeltaSpike/Project+Structure 2011/12/23 Jason Porter lightguard...@gmail.com fyi: please check [1] before you answer.

Re: git commit: Added myself as a PPMC member

2011-12-23 Thread Matt Benson
Hi Marius--I would suggest moving your entry to before mine so we keep them sorted alphabetically by id. Matt On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 7:53 AM, mar...@apache.org wrote: Updated Branches:  refs/heads/master 88ff7635a - 37414d7d3 Added myself as a PPMC member Project:

Re: basic decisions: test setup

2011-12-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
i would suggest that we start with an approach which is available right now and to refactor the tests later on (as soon as the mentioned approach is available in arquillian). @dan: yes - the basic idea is very similar to manila. +1 for adding the basic approach to arquillian itself and using it.

Re: basic decisions: test setup

2011-12-23 Thread Jason Porter
I'll get to this today, as soon as the kids let me work :) (wife is still down sick with food poisoning it seems) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2011, at 11:09, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote: i would suggest that we start with an approach which is available right now and

[DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-23 Thread Dan Allen
Veto is rationally the most appropriate since it directly translates to calling ProcessAnnotatedType#veto() However, I'd like to offer one other alternative: @Skip While veto describes what the extension is doing internally, skip is how the developer perceives the result of the action. The

Re: [jira] [Created] (DELTASPIKE-13) Choose documentation format and tools

2011-12-23 Thread Dan Allen
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 15:20, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.comwrote: i said: if there are too many open questions right now,... Understood. -Dan -- Dan Allen Principal Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action Registered Linux User #231597

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+0.5 for @Skip as mentioned in the original thread @Veto is accurate from a technical perspective, but it sounds strange for users who aren't aware of the mechanism behind. if we are talking only about @Veto vs @Skip and not about the other alternatives: +1 for @Skip regards, gerhard

Re: [jira] [Created] (DELTASPIKE-13) Choose documentation format and tools

2011-12-23 Thread Mark Struberg
Dan, I also like the results Andrew and Aslak had with that for the new Arquillian page. Could you probably provide a skeleton and sample integration which we can tweak? Best would be if you just create a git-clone and provide that on github. then we play around with it and if it turns out to

AW: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-23 Thread Arne Limburg
What about @Exclude? Cheers, Arne -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Gerhard Petracek [mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Dezember 2011 21:28 An: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto +0.5 for @Skip as mentioned in the

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-23 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 for @Veto because Seam3 users are already aware of it. That doesn't mean that I don't like @Skip, but I see no real benefit, and it would be harder for Seam3 users to move migrate. LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com To:

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-8] @Veto

2011-12-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hi arne, would be also ok for me - +1 regards, gerhard 2011/12/23 Arne Limburg arne.limb...@openknowledge.de What about @Exclude? Cheers, Arne -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Gerhard Petracek [mailto:gerhard.petra...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Dezember 2011 21:28 An:

Re: [jira] [Created] (DELTASPIKE-13) Choose documentation format and tools

2011-12-23 Thread Gerhard Petracek
+1 regards, gerhard 2011/12/23 Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de Dan, I also like the results Andrew and Aslak had with that for the new Arquillian page. Could you probably provide a skeleton and sample integration which we can tweak? Best would be if you just create a git-clone and

website

2011-12-23 Thread Jakob Korherr
Hi guys, I just saw that http://incubator.apache.org already lists DeltaSpike as a current project, but it links to http://incubator.apache.org/projects/deltaspike.html which results in a 404 Not Found. WDYT of creating a very basic index.apt and doing a maven site-deploy? IMO it can't hurt to

Re: separate parent module - why not use the pom.xml from the main folder as parent?

2011-12-23 Thread Dan Allen
I agree that it potentially puts some bumps in the road, but the benefit is that you can import that parent into the IDE when it's adjacent to the other modules. When it's above the modules, at least in Eclipse, it can't be imported without having all the submodules as resources inside the parent

Re: separate parent module - why not use the pom.xml from the main folder as parent?

2011-12-23 Thread Jakob Korherr
Hi, Oh, I did not know that. I am using IntelliJ, no problems here ;) Regards, Jakob 2011/12/24 Dan Allen dan.j.al...@gmail.com: I agree that it potentially puts some bumps in the road, but the benefit is that you can import that parent into the IDE when it's adjacent to the other modules.

Re: basic decisions: test setup

2011-12-23 Thread Dan Allen
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 13:09, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.comwrote: i would suggest that we start with an approach which is available right now and to refactor the tests later on (as soon as the mentioned approach is available in arquillian). Speaking to that approach, you'll

Re: basic decisions: test setup

2011-12-23 Thread Dan Allen
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 04:39, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote: I like the annotation filter! (Don't yet understand why isn't that a Qualifier but a Stereotype, but that's minor stuff) Well, this can't be anything related to CDI since Arquillian isn't just for CDI. I just named it

Re: [jira] [Created] (DELTASPIKE-13) Choose documentation format and tools

2011-12-23 Thread Dan Allen
Btw, I do *strongly* recommend using awestruct for creating the website. In 10+ years of creating websites (and applications) I've never encountered anything remotely as productive...esp when all you want to do is create web pages with information. -Dan On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 18:25, Dan Allen

Re: [jira] [Created] (DELTASPIKE-13) Choose documentation format and tools

2011-12-23 Thread Dan Allen
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 15:32, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote: Dan, I also like the results Andrew and Aslak had with that for the new Arquillian page. ...that was mostly done by me, Aslak and Sarah :) I think we are talking about two different things. For Arquillian, we have used

Re: separate parent module - why not use the pom.xml from the main folder as parent?

2011-12-23 Thread Mark Struberg
Hi Jakob! This was needed as we don't maintain the checkstyle plugin as separat project (because of using GIT). Thus we did need to move the 'parent' for the code projects one layer deeper... LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Jakob Korherr jakob.korh...@gmail.com To:

Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-27] CodiConfig

2011-12-23 Thread John D. Ament
+1 How about SpikeConfig? On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Gerhard Petracek gerhard.petra...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for a new name. (initially it was a bit more. we reduced the functionality later on.) we could call it e.g. ModuleConfig regards, gerhard 2011/12/23 Jason Porter

Re: basic decisions: test setup

2011-12-23 Thread Mark Struberg
I give those surefire issues a try and push it if it looks good. LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Dan Allen dan.j.al...@gmail.com To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:14 AM Subject: Re: basic decisions: test setup On Fri,

Re: basic decisions: test setup

2011-12-23 Thread Jason Porter
Looks like I'll be brushing up the JUnit Categories tonight. From what I remember, these would be a good middle of the road approach, until we get the changes into arquillian. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2011, at 16:59, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote: I give those surefire issues