Re: [doc] Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-13 Thread Jeff Levitt
--- scott hutinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wasn't clear what the bat files were doing with > the command 'saxon'. > This is due to the command being instant saxon, > which is a stripped down > version of saxon (only in terms of samples, source, > documentation ). So > saxon.exe is the

[doc] Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-13 Thread scott hutinger
I wasn't clear what the bat files were doing with the command 'saxon'. This is due to the command being instant saxon, which is a stripped down version of saxon (only in terms of samples, source, documentation ). So saxon.exe is the xslt processor according to the web site. I didn't have time

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-08 Thread Jeff Levitt
--- scott hutinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So at this point, I think we should do a manual > transforms -> html and > see what the problems are. Jeff has found the > parent child problem, > which is what forrest uses by default to create the > website. I'm > certain he has found others.

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-08 Thread scott hutinger
Susan Cline wrote: Jeff Levitt wrote: Ok, so I checked the dita zip and saw that there is a license, but it seems to allow distribution. So I am going to create a zip of all the dtd's (as well as the css files, if anyone wants to use them as well), and I am just going to include that license file

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-07 Thread Susan Cline
Jeff Levitt wrote: Ok, so I checked the dita zip and saw that there is a license, but it seems to allow distribution. So I am going to create a zip of all the dtd's (as well as the css files, if anyone wants to use them as well), and I am just going to include that license file in the zip as well.

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-07 Thread Jeff Levitt
Ok, so I checked the dita zip and saw that there is a license, but it seems to allow distribution. So I am going to create a zip of all the dtd's (as well as the css files, if anyone wants to use them as well), and I am just going to include that license file in the zip as well. I'll send the zip

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-07 Thread Susan Cline
Jean T. Anderson wrote: Jeff Levitt wrote: The dtd files are part of the dita package announced and linked here: http://xml.coverpages.org/dita.html#dita131Announce or the more complete download site on developerWorks here: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-dita6/x-dita_downloads

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-07 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Jeff Levitt wrote: >The dtd files are part of the dita package announced >and linked here: > >http://xml.coverpages.org/dita.html#dita131Announce > >or the more complete download site on developerWorks >here: > >http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-dita6/x-dita_downloads.html > >I r

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-07 Thread Jeff Levitt
Hi Susan, The dtd files are part of the dita package announced and linked here: http://xml.coverpages.org/dita.html#dita131Announce or the more complete download site on developerWorks here: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-dita6/x-dita_downloads.html I recommend dita131 or

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-07 Thread Susan Cline
Jeff Levitt wrote: I've seen some posts (Thanks Rick) regarding my idea to move the Derby documentation to DITA, and I wanted to provide you all with an update on the progress... As we discussed previously on this list, I proposed to migrate the Derby documentation to XML DITA to help make the outp

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-07 Thread Jeff Levitt
> Windows only?! Too bad they don't make it available > for Linux. > > -jean Not a problem :) Here you go: http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/download/preconfig.jsp?id=2003-07-30+12%3A39%3A33.410270R&S_TACT=104CBW71&S_CMP=&s=

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-06 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Jeff Levitt wrote: > ... > >Incidentally, I'm working on creating a process for >anyone to download Eclipse and use it as a help system >on their local machines or with a web server to >display the Derby docs online. > >I found an IBM implementation of the Eclipse workbench >that has been stripped

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-06 Thread Jeff Levitt
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Sounds like an option, although it means that > everyone has to install > another program to read the manuals. I agree we > would still want the PDFs > so the manuals can be printed. > > How big would a minimal configuration for > stand-alone help be? Hopin

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-06 Thread Jeff Levitt
> Just out of curiosity, can Eclipse's help system > package use Apache > Xalan (the cocoon default)? or does it require > Saxon? > > -jean > You just need anything that can build xhtml and an xml nav tree. I dont know anything about Xalan, but if it can accomplish that like Saxon does, then

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-06 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Jeff Levitt wrote: > ... > >I have an idea that may just solve most if not all of >these issues. We can use Eclipse. >... all we have to do is use >saxon/cocoon to output xhtml from the DITA (I've >already tested that with success), as well as create >an XML nav tree from the ditamap, also using

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-06 Thread sissonj
> > I have an idea that may just solve most if not all of > these issues. We can use Eclipse. > > Check out the Cloudscape version of the help: > http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/cldscp10/index.jsp > > That entire site was created using Eclipse's help > system package. To learn more ab

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-06 Thread scott hutinger
Jeff Levitt wrote: --- scott hutinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scott hutinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/12/2004 05:21:24 PM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scott hutinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/12/2004 11:38:59

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-06 Thread Jeff Levitt
--- scott hutinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >scott hutinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on > 06/12/2004 05:21:24 PM: > > > > > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>scott hutinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on > 06/12/2004 11:38:59 AM: > >>> > >>>

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-06 Thread scott hutinger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scott hutinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/12/2004 05:21:24 PM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scott hutinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/12/2004 11:38:59 AM: I haven't followed that entire thread, nor can I find that thread currently. But, a log plugin;

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-06 Thread sissonj
scott hutinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/12/2004 05:21:24 PM: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >scott hutinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/12/2004 11:38:59 AM: > > > > > > > >>I haven't followed that entire thread, nor can I find that thread > >>currently. But, a log plugin; which I th

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-06 Thread scott hutinger
scott hutinger wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scott hutinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/12/2004 11:38:59 AM: I haven't followed that entire thread, nor can I find that thread currently. But, a log plugin; which I think? followes which files have changed, has been developed using java.ut

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-06 Thread scott hutinger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scott hutinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/12/2004 11:38:59 AM: I haven't followed that entire thread, nor can I find that thread currently. But, a log plugin; which I think? followes which files have changed, has been developed using java.util.logging. I think i

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-06 Thread sissonj
scott hutinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/12/2004 11:38:59 AM: > > > I haven't followed that entire thread, nor can I find that thread > currently. But, a log plugin; which I think? followes which files have > changed, has been developed using java.util.logging. I think it allows > forre

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-06 Thread Jean T. Anderson
scott hutinger wrote: > ... > Also, I am uncertain about the release date of 0.7. I think Jean has > the docs up to spec for 0.6, which I think is needed for 0.7. The only remaining file is the faq.xml -- when I switched it to forrest's faq-v20.dtd, forrest 0.5 failed to build it. I'll backtra

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-06 Thread scott hutinger
Jeff Levitt wrote: --- "Jean T. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The number of source files actually goes up for dita. For example, the Getting Started guide currently has 27 files, which increases to 34 dita files -- and it makes sense that this would happen since there is one topic per fil

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-05 Thread Jeff Levitt
--- "Jean T. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The number of source files actually goes up for > dita. For example, the > Getting Started guide currently has 27 files, which > increases to 34 dita > files -- and it makes sense that this would happen > since there is one > topic per file. T

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-05 Thread Jean T. Anderson
scott hutinger wrote: > ... > First, I think the DITA.dtd files are needed to do any > transformation. These files are currently at ../ which means they are > missing. I downloaded the DITA.dtd's from IBM's website. Forrest has > a really nice architecture currently in the 0.7-dev only code bas

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-05 Thread scott hutinger
Jeff Levitt wrote: I've seen some posts (Thanks Rick) regarding my idea to move the Derby documentation to DITA, and I wanted to provide you all with an update on the progress... As we discussed previously on this list, I proposed to migrate the Derby documentation to XML DITA to help make the outp

Re: Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-03 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Jeff Levitt wrote: >... >The files for >the Getting Started Guide are now in DITA in the >attached zip file (update: The derby-dev list wont let >me attach the zip so I will send to Jean so she can >make it available for download). > ... It's a mystery to me why some attachments are accepted and

Derby documentation in XML DITA

2004-12-03 Thread Jeff Levitt
I've seen some posts (Thanks Rick) regarding my idea to move the Derby documentation to DITA, and I wanted to provide you all with an update on the progress... As we discussed previously on this list, I proposed to migrate the Derby documentation to XML DITA to help make the output more flexible t