Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Mike Matrigali
Suresh Thalamati wrote: Mike Matrigali wrote: Mike Matrigali wrote: Ok, didn't realize this broke the model. As long as the info gets down to store I don't really care how. So if you can't get the info from the template we pass down, then we should just add another array argument to

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Suresh Thalamati
Mike Matrigali wrote: Mike Matrigali wrote: Ok, didn't realize this broke the model. As long as the info gets down to store I don't really care how. So if you can't get the info from the template we pass down, then we should just add another array argument to createConglomerate and creat

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Mike Matrigali
Mike Matrigali wrote: Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Mamta Satoor wrote: Mike, thanks for going through the wiki page. Especially, the store section since I am not too familiar with store code. Following are my responses 1)Mike:Obtain collation id(type) from DataValueDescriptor(DVD) thro

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Mike Matrigali
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Mamta Satoor wrote: Mike, thanks for going through the wiki page. Especially, the store section since I am not too familiar with store code. Following are my responses 1)Mike:Obtain collation id(type) from DataValueDescriptor(DVD) through DVD.getCollateId metho

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Mamta Satoor wrote: Mike, thanks for going through the wiki page. Especially, the store section since I am not too familiar with store code. Following are my responses 1)Mike:Obtain collation id(type) from DataValueDescriptor(DVD) through DVD.getCollateId method. The way I had collation in min

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Mamta Satoor
No worries, Army. In fact your mail thread brought up the hole in the wiki page where I was vague about current schema when talking about parameters. Mamta On 4/3/07, Army <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Daniel John Debrunner wrote: > > I don't see how when the current schema is defined makes a di

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Army
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: I don't see how when the current schema is defined makes a difference as to if they run without error or not? How does the current schema being a user schema or a system schema make this statement compile to an error? // Default schema APP. PreparedStatem

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Army wrote: Daniel John Debrunner wrote: I'm a little lost by this. What do these two terms mean to you? "run correctly" run without error "would only work if" run without error Sorry for the confusion. Still confused. :-) I don't see how when the current schema is defined makes a

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Army
Army wrote: Oops, clicked send too quickly on that last one. Will try this again once I clarify the terminology in my head, then will post. Daniel John Debrunner wrote: I'm a little lost by this. What do these two terms mean to you? "run correctly" run without error "would only

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Rick Hillegas
Army wrote: Army wrote: Since a parameter maker does not have a "defined" schema, does "current schema" mean the schema when the statement is prepared, or the schema when it is executed? For example I can do the following in JDBC: // Default schema ("APP"). PreparedStatement ps = conn.pre

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Army
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: I'm a little lost by this. What do these two terms mean to you? "run correctly" run without error "would only work if" run without error Sorry for the confusion. Army

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Army wrote: On the other hand, if the statement is changed to: // Default schema APP. PreparedStatement ps = conn.prepareStatement( "select tablename, tabletype from sys.systables where " + "CAST (tablename as varchar(128)) = ?"); then it might be better to take "current s

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Mamta Satoor
Army, riding on the CAST wagon a little bit more, a user can rewrite the query as follows and then it won't matter in what schema the query is getting run. PreparedStatement ps = conn.prepareStatement( "select tablename, tabletype from sys.systables where " + "CAST (tablename as varc

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Mamta Satoor
I was leaning towards using the current schema at the prepared time because I am hoping to do all the collation validation at the compile phase rather than the execute phase. Picking up the schema at the prepared time will help me enable that. Let me look at your following mail a little bit more

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Mike Matrigali
Mamta Satoor wrote: Mike, thanks for going through the wiki page. Especially, the store section since I am not too familiar with store code. Following are my responses 1)Mike:Obtain collation id(type) from DataValueDescriptor(DVD) through DVD.getCollateId method. The way I had collation in m

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Army
Thank you very much for the wiki page, Mamta. It is indeed very helpful! Mamta Satoor wrote: The character set of the schema the function is defined in. That keeps it least confusing and easier for the users to understand. One question similar to Dan's, except mine is w.r.t: > 8)JDBC paramet

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Army
Army wrote: Since a parameter maker does not have a "defined" schema, does "current schema" mean the schema when the statement is prepared, or the schema when it is executed? For example I can do the following in JDBC: // Default schema ("APP"). PreparedStatement ps = conn.prepareStatement

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Mamta Satoor
Thanks Army, for going through the wiki page and reviewing it. I was thinking of using the character set of the schema where the statement is prepared. Your example demonstrates that from user point of view, this will be easier to understand and easier for us to document. I will add your comment

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Mamta Satoor
If no objections by the end of the day, then I will go ahead and update the wiki page for the character set of the user defined functions. thanks, Mamta On 4/3/07, Mamta Satoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The character set of the schema the function is defined in. That keeps it least confusing

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/BuiltInLanguageBasedOrderingDERBY-1478 7)For user defined functions' that return character string type, the return type's collation > will have the same collation as current schema's character set. The "current schema's" character set, or the character set of t

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Mamta Satoor
The character set of the schema the function is defined in. That keeps it least confusing and easier for the users to understand. Mamta On 4/3/07, Daniel John Debrunner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/BuiltInLanguageBasedOrderingDERBY-1478 > 7)For user defined fun

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Mamta Satoor
Mike, thanks for going through the wiki page. Especially, the store section since I am not too familiar with store code. Following are my responses 1)Mike:Obtain collation id(type) from DataValueDescriptor(DVD) through DVD.getCollateId method. The way I had collation in mind, collation type would

some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-02 Thread Mike Matrigali
I have included some comments based on th following wiki page: > 6)Store needs a way to determine the collation type for a given DVD. This collation type will then be saved in the column metadata. Provide the api on DVD to return the correct collation type. Just an addition here. The way