history with this team so I'll
continue to lurk on the discussion.
Looking forward to lending a hand in some manner!
Kirk
No amount of genius can overcome a preoccupation with detail.
/*Marion J. Levy*/
-- nex
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 23:42 +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
>
> Maybe we as the Design Team should vote publicly on the request then.
That's certainly one approach we could take.
>
> How exactly is it that they need marketing? They will be the default
> in Fedora and the official future of th
Hi Martin,
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 22:28 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote:
> IMHO this would lessen Fedora's visual identity a lot. Imagine you boot
> a F15 Desktop Live and what you see is almost pristine GNOME 3 desktop.
> Where's Fedora in it? Where's our own visual identity in it?
Our visual identit
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 18:11 -0500, Ricky Zhou wrote:
> On 2010-12-17 11:03:39 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > If we as a team choose to consider Owen's request, there won't be brand
> > confusion between Fedora and GNOME - the Fedora brand will be strong
> > from the website / DVD sleeve through the in
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 22:28 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote:
> Hi Máirín,
>
> On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 11:03 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > So there's a few things to consider here for example, the GNOME
> > marketing team is actually engaged in an effort to create a series of
> > videos showing off
On 2010-12-17 11:03:39 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> If we as a team choose to consider Owen's request, there won't be brand
> confusion between Fedora and GNOME - the Fedora brand will be strong
> from the website / DVD sleeve through the install and bootup process
> (Fedora splash graphics for the in
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>
> I just read the post here by Owen and it specifically says "request."
> Anything else is reportage or inference.
>
Is it? I wasn't attending the meeting but it really looks like it is being
pushed through to me. I mean, honestly, who on
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Owen Taylor wrote:
>
> Our general approach with the GNOME components in Fedora is to work
> upstream whenever possible. It's very seldom that there's a change that
> makes sense in Fedora that doesn't make sense upstream. So we try to
> just do the change upstrea
Hi Máirín,
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 11:03 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> So there's a few things to consider here for example, the GNOME
> marketing team is actually engaged in an effort to create a series of
> videos showing off different aspects of GNOME 3 for the launch (some
> details here: htt
Hi everyone,
My name is Kirk, I'm looking to get more involved with the design team.
My background is as a user experience professional and business
analyst. I'm currently the UX Advocate for Liferea, and am looking to
contribute further to Fedora specifically. I've migrated from Ubuntu as
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 11:01 -0500, Owen Taylor wrote:
> If the team doing the default Fedora desktop switched and did a GNOME
> remix instead this cycle, who would do the default Fedora desktop?
> (I'm sure you'd be happy to switch the default to KDE for this cycle,
> but... ;-)
>
> And how would
Hi Nicu,
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 09:10 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> On 12/17/2010 01:54 AM, Owen Taylor wrote:
> >
> > We want Fedora to be the showcase for GNOME 3 and to be a good example
> > to other distributions about how to package GNOME 3. So, to go along
> > with the release splash for Fedo
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 16:09 +0100, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> On Friday, December 17, 2010 03:44:37 pm Owen Taylor wrote:
> > On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 12:23 +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
> > > This is disappointing as hell. I had expected nonsense like that
> > > within the Ubuntu community, but no
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 02:40:38PM +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>
> >
> > Can we cool down the rhetoric just a bit? That would really help this
> > discussion be more constructive, so thanks in advance Fab.
>
> That implies that the
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 10:26 +0100, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> > Case in point: the GDM background would be the same as the GNOME
> > background or as the general-purpose background used by all the other
> > spins? Which one of the spins will have an inconsistent experience? The
> > same about the P
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 12:23 +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
> Wow. Just heard about this now. With all due respect, this is
> BULLSHIT. You are telling me you couldn't have told the team earlier?
> Maybe BEFORE we all started ramping up to do the F15 wallpaper? This
> decision must've been i
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 15:59 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> On 12/17/2010 03:40 PM, Owen Taylor wrote:
> > On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 09:10 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> >> On 12/17/2010 01:54 AM, Owen Taylor wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I want to be clear that this is not in any way saying that we don't like
> >>> t
On 12/17/2010 03:40 PM, Owen Taylor wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 09:10 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
>> On 12/17/2010 01:54 AM, Owen Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>> I want to be clear that this is not in any way saying that we don't like
>>> the Fedora backgrounds ... the recent Fedora backgrounds are great,
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Owen Taylor wrote:
>
>
> My proposal is is straightforward:
>
> Once you select a user and log in to GNOME, you get the GNOME default
> background. All other artwork follows normal Fedora procedures.
>
> While there are some mockups about how we'd like GDM to loo
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>
> Can we cool down the rhetoric just a bit? That would really help this
> discussion be more constructive, so thanks in advance Fab.
>
That implies that there actually *is* a discussion. From what I've read so
far, this "special request"
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 09:10 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> On 12/17/2010 01:54 AM, Owen Taylor wrote:
> >
> > We want Fedora to be the showcase for GNOME 3 and to be a good example
> > to other distributions about how to package GNOME 3. So, to go along
> > with the release splash for Fedora 15, we'd
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:23:49PM +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote:
> Wow. Just heard about this now. With all due respect, this is BULLSHIT.
> You are telling me you couldn't have told the team earlier? Maybe BEFORE we
> all started ramping up to do the F15 wallpaper? This decision must've b
Rgds, Caius 'kaio' Chance - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:kaiogg
On 17/12/2010 9:23 PM, "Fabian A. Scherschel" wrote:
>
> Wow. Just heard about this now. With all due respect, this is
BULLSHIT. You are telling me you couldn't have told the team earlier? Maybe
BEFORE we all started ramping
Wow. Just heard about this now. With all due respect, this is BULLSHIT.
You are telling me you couldn't have told the team earlier? Maybe BEFORE we
all started ramping up to do the F15 wallpaper? This decision must've been
in the works for quite some time.
This is disappointing as hell. I had
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