On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 13:14 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, John Poelstra wrote: > > > William Jon McCann said the following on 02/10/2010 > >> We should try not to be haters because Ubuntu is doing so well. They > >> are really focusing as a project - that is commendable. And something > >> that so far Fedora has failed to do - actually *refused* to do. > >> > >> We should also probably consider debranding Fedora hosted so it isn't > >> as distasteful to people looking for a sourceforge alternative. > >> > >> This is all well within reach folks. Just have to make the right choices. > >> :) > >> > > > > Well put! > > > > Any idea on how do we help Fedora to *make some choices* and focus? > > > > It seems to me that is where we are most stuck. > > > > It seems that people are either critical of "choices being made for > > them" or too afraid of wrong choices being made by others. That puts > > the people in leadership in a "loose loose" situation. > > And other folks do not like the set of choices this list would want to > make. > > That is the problem. Making choices driven from the desktop list alienates > a good number of our core contributors. > > If you lose them then good luck making the infrastructure function.
I think you're missing the major point. Design should exist without boundaries of the existing, and disregard opinion of the masses. I'd point you to that article: http://w.koreatimes.com/article/576354 (originally in the NY Times) And if you have access to the BBC iPlayer, you should watch the latest "Newswipe", which has a portion about political elitism, taking Roy Jenkins as an example of increasing liberties[1]. Design might be elitist, but it needs to be elitist (and therefore, unpopular) if there is any chance of it being useful. Otherwise we're stuck in with the same old paradigm. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Jenkins#In_government > -sv > _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
