[Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread Fabian A. Scherschel
Hi, everyone! Earlier today I found a dent (can't remember who it was from, possibly tatica) about advertising banners on Fedora and wrote a comment on one and how I found it to be questionable if it would actually help rather than hurt our cause. @tante (who's opinion I generally respect a lot) s

Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 21:11 +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: > Hi, everyone! > > > Earlier today I found a dent (can't remember who it was from, possibly > tatica) about advertising banners on Fedora and wrote a comment on one > and how I found it to be questionable if it would actually help ra

Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread Fabian A. Scherschel
Well, I'm not defending him here but that's the general tone of his blog. If you ignore that, his points are still valid, though. Fab 2011/2/20 Máirín Duffy > On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 21:11 +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: > > Hi, everyone! > > > > > > Earlier today I found a dent (can't remem

Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread María Leandro
Hello - - - Would be much more interesting have a constructive opinion about a mockup (because this is a mockup of a design-ticket in development) instead call people retarded. Even so, thank you for your critiques. - - - this is what I write in his blog, and is the same

Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 21:21 +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: > Well, I'm not defending him here but that's the general tone of his > blog. If you ignore that, his points are still valid, though. > There's enough people with valid points that have the self-control to forgo the snark that I reall

Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread twohotis
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Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 20:30 +, twoho...@gmail.com wrote: > Not all his points though. > > Some people do value freedom. I subscribe to a product that respects my > freedom. The extra emphasis is odd though. > > Even when viewed in light of costs, nothing comes free but if its prepaid > th

Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread Fabian A. Scherschel
2011/2/20 Máirín Duffy > > There's enough people with valid points that have the self-control to > forgo the snark that I really don't want to voluntarily subject myself > to it. If you think that is wise. I personally accept comments based on the merit of the actual content rather than the way

Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 22:22 +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: > > If you think that is wise. I personally accept comments based on the > merit of the actual content rather than the way they are offered. If > one is easily offended, one shouldn't ask the public for comments. > Transparency and ope

Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread Fabian A. Scherschel
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 9:30 PM, wrote: > Not all his points though. > > Some people do value freedom. I subscribe to a product that respects my > freedom. The extra emphasis is odd though. > The question is do these people chose their distro based on ads like this? I think they don't. This i

Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 22:22 +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: > > 2011/2/20 Máirín Duffy > > > There's enough people with valid points that have the > self-control to > forgo the snark that I really don't want to voluntarily > subject myself >

Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread Fabian A. Scherschel
2011/2/20 Máirín Duffy > > > One of the key differentiators between Fedora and other Linux distros is > our commitment to freedom. No, you don't get MP3s out of the box. > There's a good reason why. Tatica's mockup is absolutely accurate on > that point. No, it doesn't make sense to emphsize weak

Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 22:29 +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: > Who said anything about lying or misleading? I did, was just laying out the two extremes to be avoided. > But mentioning ones weaknesses is not what advertising is about. > There is a whole gamut of grey in between lying and misle

Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread María Leandro
btw, I "knew" I got that slogan from some place... back in 2008 Complete thread: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-October/msg00227.html People, this is a complete non-useful thread if we already discuss this issue. Do we want to change our 4 F's slogans? then let'

Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread Fabian A. Scherschel
Hmmm Somehow Apple manages to sell millions of iPads a month with these terrible adverts. Maybe they aren't *that* bad? Especially considering that the device itself is terrible and just looks good IMO. Anyway, I was actually trying to help. From the last few weeks I can see that is not wanted

Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread Máirín Duffy
Let me try to make a few things clear - On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 22:45 +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: > Anyway, I was actually trying to help. From the last few weeks I can > see that is not wanted. We absolutely want your help. You are a talented artist and have a good eye for design. > I wil

Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread María Leandro
Hola. People. I don't know if my mails are getting to the list (hope they are). I believe that we must get to work and perhaps work on a new marketing campaign giving a refresh to our slogans. I've just opened a new mail thread (maybe in 10mins) and I hope to see your ideas there. I think that wh

Re: [Design-team] Fedora Advertising Banner

2011-02-20 Thread Catalin
These guys gave you homework... You filled two pages of emails for what? Who are those people? Are some of us? 2011/2/21 María Leandro : > Hola. > > People. I don't know if my mails are getting to the list (hope they are). I > believe that we must get to work and perhaps work on a new marketing >