Le jeudi 02 octobre 2008 à 17:43 +0100, Matt Zimmerman a écrit :
> What is the issue with duplicating one option between the two dialogs?
no real issue but I'm not an usability expert, mpt do you think that's
something that could confuse users?
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Has not yet replaced the existing log out applet
Le jeudi 02 octobre 2008 à 17:43 +0100, Matt Zimmerman a écrit :
> Maybe I'm confused. Above, it says "add an extra dialog" (in addition
> to
> the other two). Unless the applet is changed, it will still use the
> log out
> dialog.
oh right, that's me who got confused when reading the reply
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On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 06:09:58PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Le jeudi 02 octobre 2008 à 16:57 +0100, Matt Zimmerman a écrit :
> > On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 04:28:48PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
>
> > > * add an extra dialog similar to the 2 upstream ones which lists all the
> > > options
Sebastien Bacher [2008-10-02 17:53 +0200]:
> there is no "old logout applet", this applet is an upstream gnome-panel
> one and is still there in the current version
Seb just pointed out to me that the logout applet is not actually
deprecated. Previously I understood it that way, and thus looked fo
Le jeudi 02 octobre 2008 à 16:57 +0100, Matt Zimmerman a écrit :
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 04:28:48PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> > * add an extra dialog similar to the 2 upstream ones which lists all the
> > options
>
> ...and change the logout applet to use it (right?).
no, since we would
On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 04:28:48PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Le jeudi 02 octobre 2008 à 13:37 +0100, Matt Zimmerman a écrit :
> > I don't consider the redundant menu entries to be as much of a problem
> > as
> > having one of the most prominent buttons on the default desktop lose
> > most of
NOTE: panel "applets" and "objects" are _DIFFERENT_ things!
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 17:40 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
> * make the new fusa applet recognize the object ID of the old logout
>applet, so that the panel shows it instead of the logout applet;
>in a couple of releases we can final
Sebastien Bacher [2008-10-02 16:28 +0200]:
> * use the stock upstream dialogs and the new user switch applet and do
> users configurations changes on update:
> [...]
> inconvenients:
- breaks compatibility with earlier Ubuntu releases and other
distributions, which is an issue for shared /home (
Ted Gould [2008-10-01 16:38 -0500]:
> To change gnome-panel so that when it saw the object ID for the logout
> button and then put in the FUSA applet would be... interesting. I
> imagine the code itself wouldn't be hard
It'd actually be a bit more complex than that. The new fusa is
essentially m
Le jeudi 02 octobre 2008 à 13:37 +0100, Matt Zimmerman a écrit :
> I don't consider the redundant menu entries to be as much of a problem
> as
> having one of the most prominent buttons on the default desktop lose
> most of
> its functionality.
Right, so let's summarize the discussion, I see 3 way
On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 02:30:44PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Le jeudi 02 octobre 2008 à 11:42 +0100, Matt Zimmerman a écrit :
> > > Doing that would either require to change the upstream dialog to
> > list
> > > all the option or to add a new dialog similar to the current
> > upstream
> > >
Le jeudi 02 octobre 2008 à 11:42 +0100, Matt Zimmerman a écrit :
> > Doing that would either require to change the upstream dialog to
> list
> > all the option or to add a new dialog similar to the current
> upstream
> > ones which list those. Changing the dialog would create a delta over
> > upstr
On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 12:30:46PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> Le jeudi 02 octobre 2008 à 09:04 +0100, Matt Zimmerman a écrit :
> > This is not about how the dialog looks, but the end user functionality
> > in
> > it. The current upstream "Shut Down" dialog offers everything we need
> > *exce
Le jeudi 02 octobre 2008 à 09:04 +0100, Matt Zimmerman a écrit :
> This is not about how the dialog looks, but the end user functionality
> in
> it. The current upstream "Shut Down" dialog offers everything we need
> *except* the "Log Out" option, and I would imagine this is possible to
> add.
> T
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 04:38:44PM -0500, Ted Gould wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 19:13 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
> > Matt Zimmerman [2008-10-01 14:19 +0100]:
> > > > That's correct. However, if the user doesn't get the deskbar applet
> > > > added,
> > > > they don't lose anything they had befo
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 19:13 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
> Matt Zimmerman [2008-10-01 14:19 +0100]:
> > > That's correct. However, if the user doesn't get the deskbar applet
> > > added,
> > > they don't lose anything they had before. With the changed logout button,
> > > they are losing functional
Hello Matt,
Matt Zimmerman [2008-10-01 14:19 +0100]:
> > That's correct. However, if the user doesn't get the deskbar applet added,
> > they don't lose anything they had before. With the changed logout button,
> > they are losing functionality they previously had.
>
> Note that this, the most s
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 10:15:53AM -0500, Ted Gould wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 14:19 +0100, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > Note that this, the most significant issue in my opinion, could be easily
> > addressed by restoring the lost functionality to the logout button.
>
> Are you suggesting that th
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 14:19 +0100, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> Note that this, the most significant issue in my opinion, could be easily
> addressed by restoring the lost functionality to the logout button.
Are you suggesting that the logout button should have it's own dialog
and not use the gnome-ses
On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 02:23:42PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
> Scott James Remnant [2008-10-01 10:07 +0100]:
> > On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 07:48 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
> >
> > > - if the old logout applet is configured in the panel, show the new
> > >f-u-s-a instead
> > > - if the old f-u-s-a
Scott James Remnant [2008-10-01 10:07 +0100]:
> On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 07:48 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
>
> > - if the old logout applet is configured in the panel, show the new
> >f-u-s-a instead
> > - if the old f-u-s-a applet is configured:
> >- if the new fusa or the old logout applet
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 07:48 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
> - if the old logout applet is configured in the panel, show the new
>f-u-s-a instead
> - if the old f-u-s-a applet is configured:
>- if the new fusa or the old logout applet is configured, ignore
>- else: show the new f-u-s-a
>
CC'ing the bug again, to archive the discussion. I hope you don't mind.
Scott James Remnant [2008-09-30 15:57 +0100]:
> - use gconftool-2 to query the panel applet list and object list:
>/apps/panel/general/applet_id_list
>/apps/panel/generic/object_id_list
>
>(the logout applet is a
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