[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-21 Thread Sebastien Bacher
dropping milestone, dapper is string frozen now ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: Sebastien Bacher => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs Target: ubuntu-6.06 => None -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lis

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Scott Sweeny
I would suggest "Leave Computer" -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread mdke-test
"Stop work" gets my vote. -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Jimmy Angelakos
What about "Log Out Menu" or "Log Out Options" ? -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I've asked Sebastien to make the text "Quit" with tooltip (something like.. this is from memory) "Log out, lock screen, switch users or power down the computer" ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs => Sebastien Bacher -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading h

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
The man who pays the bills should be deferred to, of course, and rightly so. But I'd like to emphasize that it still doesn't make perfect sense - "Quit," "No, don't, just lock my screen" isn't any better than "Start," "Shutdown"... actually in a way that makes better sense because at least you're

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Dana Olson
Am I wrong in thinking that in Windows you have a Log Out option and that provides a similar dialog with several other options? If that is the case, then there are much bigger issues that new users have with Windows than the log out menu option. Changing it to something else like "Stop Session" or

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Jbouze
Regarding the logout applet, I have issues with the "switch user" button: it defaults to opening a new gdm prompt, which is fine if only one user is currently logged in. However, it's just plain wrong if several sessions are already open on the machine, and someone actually wants to switch between

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Phil Housley
That's true, but it's not this bug. Fast user swtich applet is a work around, but until that functionality is built deeper into Gnome, it's all fairly well broken. -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Sebastien Bacher
That bug is fixed, marking it as such. User switching could use some work for sure, fast-user-switch-applet make easier to switch between users for now if you want, but that's a different topic of that bug, let's stay focussed and not start a new discussion at the wrong place ** Changed in: gnome-

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-21 Thread Sebastien Bacher
dropping milestone, dapper is string frozen now ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: Sebastien Bacher => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs Target: ubuntu-6.06 => None -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lis

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Scott Sweeny
I would suggest "Leave Computer" -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread mdke-test
"Stop work" gets my vote. -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Jimmy Angelakos
What about "Log Out Menu" or "Log Out Options" ? -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I've asked Sebastien to make the text "Quit" with tooltip (something like.. this is from memory) "Log out, lock screen, switch users or power down the computer" ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs => Sebastien Bacher -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading h

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
The man who pays the bills should be deferred to, of course, and rightly so. But I'd like to emphasize that it still doesn't make perfect sense - "Quit," "No, don't, just lock my screen" isn't any better than "Start," "Shutdown"... actually in a way that makes better sense because at least you're

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Dana Olson
Am I wrong in thinking that in Windows you have a Log Out option and that provides a similar dialog with several other options? If that is the case, then there are much bigger issues that new users have with Windows than the log out menu option. Changing it to something else like "Stop Session" or

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Jbouze
Regarding the logout applet, I have issues with the "switch user" button: it defaults to opening a new gdm prompt, which is fine if only one user is currently logged in. However, it's just plain wrong if several sessions are already open on the machine, and someone actually wants to switch between

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Phil Housley
That's true, but it's not this bug. Fast user swtich applet is a work around, but until that functionality is built deeper into Gnome, it's all fairly well broken. -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Sebastien Bacher
That bug is fixed, marking it as such. User switching could use some work for sure, fast-user-switch-applet make easier to switch between users for now if you want, but that's a different topic of that bug, let's stay focussed and not start a new discussion at the wrong place ** Changed in: gnome-

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-21 Thread Sebastien Bacher
dropping milestone, dapper is string frozen now ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: Sebastien Bacher => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs Target: ubuntu-6.06 => None -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lis

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Scott Sweeny
I would suggest "Leave Computer" -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread mdke-test
"Stop work" gets my vote. -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Jimmy Angelakos
What about "Log Out Menu" or "Log Out Options" ? -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I've asked Sebastien to make the text "Quit" with tooltip (something like.. this is from memory) "Log out, lock screen, switch users or power down the computer" ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs => Sebastien Bacher -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading h

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
The man who pays the bills should be deferred to, of course, and rightly so. But I'd like to emphasize that it still doesn't make perfect sense - "Quit," "No, don't, just lock my screen" isn't any better than "Start," "Shutdown"... actually in a way that makes better sense because at least you're

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Dana Olson
Am I wrong in thinking that in Windows you have a Log Out option and that provides a similar dialog with several other options? If that is the case, then there are much bigger issues that new users have with Windows than the log out menu option. Changing it to something else like "Stop Session" or

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Jbouze
Regarding the logout applet, I have issues with the "switch user" button: it defaults to opening a new gdm prompt, which is fine if only one user is currently logged in. However, it's just plain wrong if several sessions are already open on the machine, and someone actually wants to switch between

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Phil Housley
That's true, but it's not this bug. Fast user swtich applet is a work around, but until that functionality is built deeper into Gnome, it's all fairly well broken. -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Sebastien Bacher
That bug is fixed, marking it as such. User switching could use some work for sure, fast-user-switch-applet make easier to switch between users for now if you want, but that's a different topic of that bug, let's stay focussed and not start a new discussion at the wrong place ** Changed in: gnome-

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-21 Thread Sebastien Bacher
dropping milestone, dapper is string frozen now ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: Sebastien Bacher => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs Target: ubuntu-6.06 => None -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lis

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Scott Sweeny
I would suggest "Leave Computer" -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread mdke-test
"Stop work" gets my vote. -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Jimmy Angelakos
What about "Log Out Menu" or "Log Out Options" ? -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I've asked Sebastien to make the text "Quit" with tooltip (something like.. this is from memory) "Log out, lock screen, switch users or power down the computer" ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs => Sebastien Bacher -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading h

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
The man who pays the bills should be deferred to, of course, and rightly so. But I'd like to emphasize that it still doesn't make perfect sense - "Quit," "No, don't, just lock my screen" isn't any better than "Start," "Shutdown"... actually in a way that makes better sense because at least you're

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Dana Olson
Am I wrong in thinking that in Windows you have a Log Out option and that provides a similar dialog with several other options? If that is the case, then there are much bigger issues that new users have with Windows than the log out menu option. Changing it to something else like "Stop Session" or

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Jbouze
Regarding the logout applet, I have issues with the "switch user" button: it defaults to opening a new gdm prompt, which is fine if only one user is currently logged in. However, it's just plain wrong if several sessions are already open on the machine, and someone actually wants to switch between

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Phil Housley
That's true, but it's not this bug. Fast user swtich applet is a work around, but until that functionality is built deeper into Gnome, it's all fairly well broken. -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Sebastien Bacher
That bug is fixed, marking it as such. User switching could use some work for sure, fast-user-switch-applet make easier to switch between users for now if you want, but that's a different topic of that bug, let's stay focussed and not start a new discussion at the wrong place ** Changed in: gnome-

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-21 Thread Sebastien Bacher
dropping milestone, dapper is string frozen now ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: Sebastien Bacher => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs Target: ubuntu-6.06 => None -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lis

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Scott Sweeny
I would suggest "Leave Computer" -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread mdke-test
"Stop work" gets my vote. -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Jimmy Angelakos
What about "Log Out Menu" or "Log Out Options" ? -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I've asked Sebastien to make the text "Quit" with tooltip (something like.. this is from memory) "Log out, lock screen, switch users or power down the computer" ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs => Sebastien Bacher -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading h

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
The man who pays the bills should be deferred to, of course, and rightly so. But I'd like to emphasize that it still doesn't make perfect sense - "Quit," "No, don't, just lock my screen" isn't any better than "Start," "Shutdown"... actually in a way that makes better sense because at least you're

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Dana Olson
Am I wrong in thinking that in Windows you have a Log Out option and that provides a similar dialog with several other options? If that is the case, then there are much bigger issues that new users have with Windows than the log out menu option. Changing it to something else like "Stop Session" or

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Jbouze
Regarding the logout applet, I have issues with the "switch user" button: it defaults to opening a new gdm prompt, which is fine if only one user is currently logged in. However, it's just plain wrong if several sessions are already open on the machine, and someone actually wants to switch between

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Phil Housley
That's true, but it's not this bug. Fast user swtich applet is a work around, but until that functionality is built deeper into Gnome, it's all fairly well broken. -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Sebastien Bacher
That bug is fixed, marking it as such. User switching could use some work for sure, fast-user-switch-applet make easier to switch between users for now if you want, but that's a different topic of that bug, let's stay focussed and not start a new discussion at the wrong place ** Changed in: gnome-

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-21 Thread Sebastien Bacher
dropping milestone, dapper is string frozen now ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: Sebastien Bacher => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs Target: ubuntu-6.06 => None -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lis

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Scott Sweeny
I would suggest "Leave Computer" -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread mdke-test
"Stop work" gets my vote. -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Jimmy Angelakos
What about "Log Out Menu" or "Log Out Options" ? -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I've asked Sebastien to make the text "Quit" with tooltip (something like.. this is from memory) "Log out, lock screen, switch users or power down the computer" ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs => Sebastien Bacher -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading h

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
The man who pays the bills should be deferred to, of course, and rightly so. But I'd like to emphasize that it still doesn't make perfect sense - "Quit," "No, don't, just lock my screen" isn't any better than "Start," "Shutdown"... actually in a way that makes better sense because at least you're

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Dana Olson
Am I wrong in thinking that in Windows you have a Log Out option and that provides a similar dialog with several other options? If that is the case, then there are much bigger issues that new users have with Windows than the log out menu option. Changing it to something else like "Stop Session" or

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Jbouze
Regarding the logout applet, I have issues with the "switch user" button: it defaults to opening a new gdm prompt, which is fine if only one user is currently logged in. However, it's just plain wrong if several sessions are already open on the machine, and someone actually wants to switch between

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Phil Housley
That's true, but it's not this bug. Fast user swtich applet is a work around, but until that functionality is built deeper into Gnome, it's all fairly well broken. -- Tooltip for logout applet is misleading https://launchpad.net/bugs/33315 -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.

[Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-27 Thread Sebastien Bacher
That bug is fixed, marking it as such. User switching could use some work for sure, fast-user-switch-applet make easier to switch between users for now if you want, but that's a different topic of that bug, let's stay focussed and not start a new discussion at the wrong place ** Changed in: gnome-

[Bug 33315] Re: [Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
It's certainly a compromise, and I hope the tooltip text is enough of a disambiguator. Most people will FIRST want that button to power down (thats what my folks do when they are done with using the computer) and along the way they will discover that they have all these other ways to step away. -

[Bug 33315] Re: [Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
It's certainly a compromise, and I hope the tooltip text is enough of a disambiguator. Most people will FIRST want that button to power down (thats what my folks do when they are done with using the computer) and along the way they will discover that they have all these other ways to step away. -

[Bug 33315] Re: [Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
It's certainly a compromise, and I hope the tooltip text is enough of a disambiguator. Most people will FIRST want that button to power down (thats what my folks do when they are done with using the computer) and along the way they will discover that they have all these other ways to step away. -

[Bug 33315] Re: [Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
It's certainly a compromise, and I hope the tooltip text is enough of a disambiguator. Most people will FIRST want that button to power down (thats what my folks do when they are done with using the computer) and along the way they will discover that they have all these other ways to step away. -

[Bug 33315] Re: [Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
It's certainly a compromise, and I hope the tooltip text is enough of a disambiguator. Most people will FIRST want that button to power down (thats what my folks do when they are done with using the computer) and along the way they will discover that they have all these other ways to step away. -

[Bug 33315] Re: [Bug 33315] Re: Tooltip for logout applet is misleading

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
It's certainly a compromise, and I hope the tooltip text is enough of a disambiguator. Most people will FIRST want that button to power down (thats what my folks do when they are done with using the computer) and along the way they will discover that they have all these other ways to step away. -