Hi,
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 16:57, William Jon McCann wrote:
Hi Jeff,
Jeff Waugh wrote:
... and yet users will still ask: What are all these windows doing all over
my screen? - *that* is the big scary thing staring them right in the face.
So, this gets to the heart of the question. In
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 18:32, Pat Suwalski wrote:
Shane O'Connor wrote:
I didn't mean to open a can of worms ;) The only reason I posted was
because quite a few users have asked me recently why the default is
spatial, all of whom don't like it.
In all fairness, do you expect that the ones
to 2005-12-22 klockan 08:24 + skrev Shane O'Connor:
IMHO if we want to get people to shift from Windoze then we're gonna
have to ensure the move is painless as possible. That doesn't
necessarily we have to mirror windoze behaviour but we should definitely
avoid making the default for
I think you're kina missing the point here - I don't think anyone doubts
there are ways to have spatial behave nicely (middle-click, tree-view,
etc) but the problem is that new, novice or even experienced windoze
point and click users (i.e. non-technical) will not know or be bothered
to learn
Shane,
Op Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:48:25 +, schreef Shane O'Connor:
this is gonna be the biggest seller for Gnome.
...if we want to get people to shift from Windoze...
It irks me every time people talk about selling GNOME or using GNOME to
get people to shift from some other platform. [1]
It's better to minimize user options.
User does not know about difference between navigational vs spatial so
it's not so important to let them choose at first time.
I think is good to let them switch into Preferences - File manager.
Take it simple and clean
P.S. The term user is related to my
On Thu, 2005-12-22 at 10:36 +0200, Tor Lillqvist wrote:
to 2005-12-22 klockan 08:24 + skrev Shane O'Connor:
IMHO if we want to get people to shift from Windoze then we're gonna
have to ensure the move is painless as possible. That doesn't
necessarily we have to mirror windoze
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 23:49 +0100, Jan de Groot wrote:
What about something like the personalization wizard that KDE uses? As
experienced user, I just click skip because I don't want to use KDE,
only want to test it to see if I didn't break something upgrading
packages in the distribution.
On 12/22/05, Shane O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2005-12-22 at 00:24, John (J5) Palmieri wrote:
As a new user how do I know what I want?
New users want simplicity and spatial mode is definitely not simplicity
;)
New users want simplicity and browser mode is not simple either.
(sorry Phil for the duplicate, wrong reply option)
On 12/22/05, Phil Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 23:49 +0100, Jan de Groot wrote:
What about something like the personalization wizard that KDE uses? As
experienced user, I just click skip because I don't want to use
On Iau, 2005-12-22 at 10:36 +0200, Tor Lillqvist wrote:
capable of seeing the reasoning behind it... and can certainly believe
it if somebody tells me that it in fact has been shown to reduce
confusion among novice users.)
Extensions are very much a windows property rather than a
Le jeudi 22 décembre 2005 à 12:14 +0100, Murray Cumming a écrit :
On Iau, 2005-12-22 at 10:36 +0200, Tor Lillqvist wrote:
capable of seeing the reasoning behind it... and can certainly believe
it if somebody tells me that it in fact has been shown to reduce
confusion among novice users.)
Hi Shane,
Op Thu, 22 Dec 2005 09:38:52 +, schreef Shane O'Connor:
I don't think I was completely clear - I didn't mean to imply a coporate
or commercial view point. I was talking with desktop adoption by all
users in mind...
Sorry I misunderstood that part then, but still- adoption by
Shaun McCance wrote:
All right, I'll bite.
There is nothing to bite, really :) .
I'm an audiophile and a music
addict. I buy tons of music nobody's even heard of.
I record concerts. My ~/Music folder has roughly
8000 oggs and flacs, totalling about 120 GB.
I never used Mac or Amiga
Hi Reinout,
(A small request: please stop intentionally misspelling 'Windows'. It
doesn't help with making this thread appear as a grown-up discussion.)
Sorry, force of habit (which I should really break) ;)
I am trying not to get entangled in a rehash of the spatial vs.
navigational
Bruce-Robert Pocock wrote:
So, this gets to the heart of the question. In spatial mode this
situation can only occur if the user commonly uses lots of directories, or
deeply nested ones.
Is this the most common scenario for our target user?
Designing a behaviour of file manager assuming that
Shane O'Connor wrote:
In all fairness, do you expect that the ones who like spatial would ask
why browser isn't default?
Perhaps, but in all the time we had browser as the default I never once
heard anyone complain about it or ask why we couldn't have spatial mode
as default.
Sir, your
New users want simplicity and browser mode is not simple either.
In fact, file management isn't. My wife doesn't do it. She seemingly
doesn't care to clean up the desktop (==managing files) even though
it's rapidly filling up from downloads etc.
She is also constantly bitching about not
quote who=Reinout van Schouwen
It irks me every time people talk about selling GNOME or using GNOME to
get people to shift from some other platform. [1]
* That is not what GNOME is about *
Yes it *absolutely* is. Freedom - not just software freedom, but the big
freedoms that it supports and
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