Re: Failed to embed another xwindow into GtkSocket in GNOME, but succeed in FVWM/blackbox

2006-12-12 Thread Nickolay V. Shmyrev
В Втр, 12/12/2006 в 13:24 +0800, Cloudor Pu пишет: > Hi, all > > In my attached example.c, gtk_socket_add_id() is used to embed another > existed xwindow into a GtkSocket. It works in fvwm or blackbox but > failed in GNOME. > > Can anybody tell me why this could happen? It's funny. Shouldn't gn

Re: Auto start programs

2006-12-12 Thread Ritesh Khadgaray
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 13:44 -0600, tom lamm wrote: > Gnome has begun auto-starting more and more programs. Every morning when > I fire up the laptop, 3, then 5, now 8 various applications are > auto-started when the desktop loads. > > I am very careful to have everything closed before I logout. I

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Reducing the number of capplets is still a laudable goal, but hasn't > solved this problem in the past. Actually, it has. But recently, no one has taken the challenge to do a big review and refactor (PreferencesRevisited on the wiki). So while it has been raised, it has not been done, but that

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Havoc Pennington
Josselin Mouette wrote: > I'm not saying this is easy, especially for those coming from different > modules, but this would reduce the current number from 24 to 12. Which > is quite an acceptable number. > Hear hear! also remember that frequently settings can be moved to context-appropriate loc

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 12 décembre 2006 à 17:33 +, Thomas Wood a écrit : > > But even if we can't get away from a multitude of capplets, there's an > > alternative solution: add an extra level of preferences "categories", as > > we do for the applications menu. > > Four clicks to get to a preference windo

Auto start programs

2006-12-12 Thread tom lamm
Gnome has begun auto-starting more and more programs. Every morning when I fire up the laptop, 3, then 5, now 8 various applications are auto-started when the desktop loads. I am very careful to have everything closed before I logout. I do not know if it is still the case, but am aware that in the

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Joe Shaw
Hi, On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 12:57 -0500, Jon Nettleton wrote: > On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 17:33 +, Thomas Wood wrote: > > I do think using a shell window is easier than a menu, especially when > > it has search and filter features. It is also likely to be more familiar > > to users coming from oth

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Calum Benson
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 16:40 +0100, Murray Cumming wrote: > On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:26 +0100, Étienne Bersac wrote: > > A menu longer that 10 entry is very painful. > > Too menu preferences items is painful whether it's in a menu or a > "shell" window. I doubt that this new UI helps much with that

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Jamie McCracken
Jon Nettleton wrote: > On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 17:33 +, Thomas Wood wrote: >> Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: >>> On Ter, 2006-12-12 at 11:51 -0500, Jonathan Blandford wrote: On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:26 +0100, Étienne Bersac wrote: > A menu longer that 10 entry is very painful. Oft

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 17:33 +, Thomas Wood wrote: > Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: > > On Ter, 2006-12-12 at 11:51 -0500, Jonathan Blandford wrote: > >> On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:26 +0100, Étienne Bersac wrote: > >> > >>> A menu longer that 10 entry is very painful. Often, Gnome properties > >

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Ter, 2006-12-12 at 17:31 +, Andrew Sobala wrote: > Jonathan Blandford wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:26 +0100, Étienne Bersac wrote: > > > >> A menu longer that 10 entry is very painful. Often, Gnome properties > >> menu is about 20 entry when you install some additionnal softwares.

Glade: closing stable branch

2006-12-12 Thread Tristan Van Berkom
Hi, We released Glade 3.0.3 this morning with some final bugfixes and some updated and new translations, we dont plan on making any more releases in 3.0, so I'm closing the glade3-3-0-branch from development (I guess if people really wanted some kind of crucial bugfix that we missed, it would wa

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Andrew Sobala
Jonathan Blandford wrote: > On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:26 +0100, Étienne Bersac wrote: > >> A menu longer that 10 entry is very painful. Often, Gnome properties >> menu is about 20 entry when you install some additionnal softwares. >> Gnome is the only desktop which keep using this outdated >> "co

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Thomas Wood
Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: > On Ter, 2006-12-12 at 11:51 -0500, Jonathan Blandford wrote: >> On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:26 +0100, Étienne Bersac wrote: >> >>> A menu longer that 10 entry is very painful. Often, Gnome properties >>> menu is about 20 entry when you install some additionnal softwa

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Corey Burger
On 12/12/06, Thomas Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Community, > > The gnome-control-center hackers have been hard at work integrating the > work done at Novell into making a nice shiny new shell for the control > center. This time it is very much more usable, and we would like to > propose

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 11:51 -0500, Jonathan Blandford wrote: > On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:26 +0100, Étienne Bersac wrote: > > > A menu longer that 10 entry is very painful. Often, Gnome properties > > menu is about 20 entry when you install some additionnal softwares. > > Gnome is the only desktop w

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Ter, 2006-12-12 at 11:51 -0500, Jonathan Blandford wrote: > On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:26 +0100, Étienne Bersac wrote: > > > A menu longer that 10 entry is very painful. Often, Gnome properties > > menu is about 20 entry when you install some additionnal softwares. > > Gnome is the only desktop w

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Jonathan Blandford
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:26 +0100, Étienne Bersac wrote: > A menu longer that 10 entry is very painful. Often, Gnome properties > menu is about 20 entry when you install some additionnal softwares. > Gnome is the only desktop which keep using this outdated > "control-center". A control center is f

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Murray Cumming
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 15:26 +0100, Étienne Bersac wrote: > A menu longer that 10 entry is very painful. Too menu preferences items is painful whether it's in a menu or a "shell" window. I doubt that this new UI helps much with that, though I haven't seen a screenshot. Combining control panels will

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Thomas Wood
David Bolter wrote: > If it is indeed "very much more usable", then you have my vote as long > "usable" includes "accessible". > http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gap/ By usable I nearly meant "has enough features to be useful". Accessibility and usability audits would, of course, be a prereq

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Thomas Wood
Ross Burton wrote: > On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 11:18 +, Thomas Wood wrote: >> The gnome-control-center hackers have been hard at work integrating the >> work done at Novell into making a nice shiny new shell for the control >> center. This time it is very much more usable, and we would like to >

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi, I really wanted this feature for some months. Thanks for that job ! Also some screenshots would be cool. > Are there any use cases as to why this is better than the menus? A menu longer that 10 entry is very painful. Often, Gnome properties menu is about 20 entry when you install some additi

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Ross Burton
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 11:18 +, Thomas Wood wrote: > The gnome-control-center hackers have been hard at work integrating the > work done at Novell into making a nice shiny new shell for the control > center. This time it is very much more usable, and we would like to > propose that we replace

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread David Bolter
If it is indeed "very much more usable", then you have my vote as long "usable" includes "accessible". http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gap/ cheers, David Bolter Thomas Wood wrote: > Dear Community, > > The gnome-control-center hackers have been hard at work integrating the > work done at N

Re: Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 11:18 +, Thomas Wood wrote: > Dear Community, > > The gnome-control-center hackers have been hard at work integrating the > work done at Novell into making a nice shiny new shell for the control > center. This time it is very much more usable, and we would like to > pr

Replacing control center menus

2006-12-12 Thread Thomas Wood
Dear Community, The gnome-control-center hackers have been hard at work integrating the work done at Novell into making a nice shiny new shell for the control center. This time it is very much more usable, and we would like to propose that we replace the Preferences and Administration menus in