Re: Just change release date

2008-02-14 Thread Jens Granseuer
On 13.02.2008 11:09, Alexander Larsson wrote: The reason Webdav and obexftp are in a better state than ftp is: a) Interested people wanted to work on them b) They are better protocols that are easier to make a protocol from c) There are libraries that do much of the work for handling these

Re: HIG says Page Setup not Page Setup...

2008-02-14 Thread Calum Benson
On 8 Feb 2008, at 09:49, Wouter Bolsterlee wrote: 2008-02-08 klockan 09:59 skrev Matthew Thomas: Help - About Primary intended goal: Show information about the current version of the program. Requires further input: No. Therefore: No ellipsis. (About is dodgy wording, though not nearly as

GNOME's testing strategy for GUIs

2008-02-14 Thread Willie Walker
Hi All: I might be opening a big can of worms with this question, and I apologize if someone is already working in this space and I just don't know it. What is the automated testing strategy for GUIs in GNOME? Is there a well defined way to create a 'make test' target and have it do the

Re: GNOME's testing strategy for GUIs

2008-02-14 Thread Brad Taylor
Hi Willie, First off, in the spirit of full disclosure, I should mention that I work for Medsphere, the company who backs the development of the GPL testing tool, Strongwind[1]. I might be opening a big can of worms with this question, and I apologize if someone is already working in this

Re: GNOME's testing strategy for GUIs

2008-02-14 Thread Nickolay V. Shmyrev
В Чтв, 14/02/2008 в 13:42 -0500, Willie Walker пишет: Hi All: I might be opening a big can of worms with this question, and I apologize if someone is already working in this space and I just don't know it. What is the automated testing strategy for GUIs in GNOME? Is there a well

Re: GNOME's testing strategy for GUIs

2008-02-14 Thread Brad Taylor
Hey, Personally I would like to use one of these frameworks to automatically take screenshots of Conduit releases, but so far I'm stuck. I don't have enough time to compare all the available options, and don't want to waste time picking one that doesn't get anointed at a later date. FYI --

Re: GNOME's testing strategy for GUIs

2008-02-14 Thread John Stowers
* Many tools are available for automated testing, and GNOME needs to annoint one with holy gnome pee so that it will become an acceptable dependency for development. Whether this is LDTP, Dogtail, Strongwind, or others, a clear decision needs to be made so that people can go

Re: GNOME's testing strategy for GUIs

2008-02-14 Thread John Stowers
On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 13:26 -0800, Brad Taylor wrote: Hey, Personally I would like to use one of these frameworks to automatically take screenshots of Conduit releases, but so far I'm stuck. I don't have enough time to compare all the available options, and don't want to waste time

Re: GNOME's testing strategy for GUIs

2008-02-14 Thread Nagappan A
Hi Will, * We have the recording framework using pyatspi / orca-atspi. So, this works on older systems (GNOME = 2.14) too, where orca-atspi worked. With this, Evolution QA team was able to automate more than 100 different test cases and they are using it in their local testing environment. *