Re: External Deps for GNOME 2.24 - shared-mime-info from 0.22 to 0.40

2008-06-30 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le vendredi 27 juin 2008 à 10:52 +0200, Luca Ferretti a écrit : > shared-mime-info 0.40 finally implements the "icon" and "generic-icon" > support. > > This is needed in glib/gio in order to have a fallback icon for > mimetypes (example: you have a 7zip file, your icon theme don't provide > an ico

Re: gnome-session proposal

2008-06-30 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le jeudi 26 juin 2008 à 19:35 -0400, David Zeuthen a écrit : > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 01:08 +0200, Frederic Peters wrote: > > David Zeuthen wrote: > > > > > > Yes we do; at least I believe so. I won't complain about my xterms as > > > > they may be considered a legacy application but modern applic

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2008/6/30 Bastien Nocera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 22:02 +, Stef wrote: >> I've been implementing some parts of seahorse (and maybe soon >> gnome-keyring) in Vala. > >> Barring any objections, the next release of seahorse will contain some >> vala code. > > I object. Given t

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 01:51 +, Stef wrote: > Interesting. That's a very valid concern. > > Although this is a decidedly different case. Vala is used to generate C > code for parts of seahorse. This C code is then checked into the > repository, and included in the tarballs, so that people can b

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Mathias Hasselmann
Am Montag, den 30.06.2008, 10:31 +0100 schrieb Bastien Nocera: > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 01:51 +, Stef wrote: > > Interesting. That's a very valid concern. > > > > Although this is a decidedly different case. Vala is used to generate C > > code for parts of seahorse. This C code is then checked

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 13:14 +0200, Mathias Hasselmann wrote: > Am Montag, den 30.06.2008, 10:31 +0100 schrieb Bastien Nocera: > > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 01:51 +, Stef wrote: > > > Interesting. That's a very valid concern. > > > > > > Although this is a decidedly different case. Vala is used to

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Vincent Untz
Le dimanche 29 juin 2008, à 22:02 +, Stef a écrit : > I've been implementing some parts of seahorse (and maybe soon > gnome-keyring) in Vala. > > http://live.gnome.org/Vala > > I'm assuming this is an acceptable thing for a gnome module to do, as it > adds no new dependencies (build-time or r

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Jaap A. Haitsma
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le dimanche 29 juin 2008, à 22:02 +, Stef a écrit : >> I've been implementing some parts of seahorse (and maybe soon >> gnome-keyring) in Vala. >> >> http://live.gnome.org/Vala >> >> I'm assuming this is an acceptable th

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Jürg Billeter
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 23:35 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 22:02 +, Stef wrote: > > I've been implementing some parts of seahorse (and maybe soon > > gnome-keyring) in Vala. > > > Barring any objections, the next release of seahorse will contain some > > vala code. > > I

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Mathias Hasselmann
Am Montag, den 30.06.2008, 12:30 +0100 schrieb Bastien Nocera: > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 13:14 +0200, Mathias Hasselmann wrote: > > Am Montag, den 30.06.2008, 10:31 +0100 schrieb Bastien Nocera: > > > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 01:51 +, Stef wrote: > > > > Interesting. That's a very valid concern. > >

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 15:25 +0200, Mathias Hasselmann wrote: > Am Montag, den 30.06.2008, 12:30 +0100 schrieb Bastien Nocera: > > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 13:14 +0200, Mathias Hasselmann wrote: > > > Am Montag, den 30.06.2008, 10:31 +0100 schrieb Bastien Nocera: > > > > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 01:51 +00

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2008/6/30 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > An excellent reason to switch to a more modular build system, one that > does not require patching the core in order to extend it. > > Something like... WAF :-) > Well, after some time evaluating waf, there's something that I don't quit

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 15:07 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > > > 2008/6/30 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > An excellent reason to switch to a more modular build system, > one that > does not require patching the core in order to extend it

GNOME Build System Was: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2008/6/30 Johan Dahlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: > >> On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 15:07 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >> > [..] > > Plus, CMake is getting more mature and stable and it already supports >>> VisualStudio and XCode project files conversion, lack of proper >>> ex

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2008/6/30 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 15:07 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > > > > > > 2008/6/30 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > An excellent reason to switch to a more modular build system, > > one that > >

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Étienne BERSAC
Hi, I do fully agree with you Alberto. Autotools has some drawback that can't be fixed without replacing it, but current alternative seems not to provide feature parity with autotools. Regards, Étienne. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel

Re: build system alternatives (Was: Using vala in GNOME)

2008-06-30 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 12:01 -0300, Johan Dahlin wrote: > Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 15:07 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > [..] > > >> Plus, CMake is getting more mature and stable and it already supports > >> VisualStudio and XCode project files conversion, lack of pro

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Plus, CMake is getting more mature and stable and it already supports > > VisualStudio and XCode project files conversion, lack of proper > > extensibility being its only downside at the moment. > > Lack of

Re: build system alternatives (Was: Using vala in GNOME)

2008-06-30 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2008/6/30 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 12:01 -0300, Johan Dahlin wrote: >> Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: >> > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 15:07 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >> [..] >> >> >> Plus, CMake is getting more mature and stable and it already supports >>

Re: build system alternatives (Was: Using vala in GNOME)

2008-06-30 Thread natan yellin
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/6/30 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 12:01 -0300, Johan Dahlin wrote: > >> Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote: > >> > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 15:07 +0100, Alberto Ruiz

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread natan yellin
2008/6/30 Alberto Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > 2008/6/30 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 15:07 +0100, Alberto Ruiz wrote: >> > >> > >> > 2008/6/30 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > >> > >> > An excellent reason to switch to a m

Re: Using vala in GNOME

2008-06-30 Thread Callum McKenzie
Mathias Hasselmann wrote: > Just that gob wasn't half as ambitious as Vala. gob took some kind of > minimum effort approach which lead to the effect that you were mixing > high-level gob and low-level C code all the time. This just felt flaky > and hackish. I used gob with gnome-games for a while

Re: build system alternatives (Was: Using vala in GNOME)

2008-06-30 Thread Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro
On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 23:45 +0300, natan yellin wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/6/30 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 12:01 -0300, Johan Dahlin wrote: >

Re: build system alternatives (Was: Using vala in GNOME)

2008-06-30 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2008/7/1 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 23:45 +0300, natan yellin wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2008/6/30 Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >